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Clean Cab wrote:An interesting experiment involving 4 railroads. Too bad the riders weren't there to keep this going.Who says the riders weren't there? No one has mentioned any real passenger counts.
DutchRailnut wrote:TS since you have no credible ridership numbers its fair to say that those crew members that operated those trains have better info than you.So what if he "knows" how many riders there were on one or two of the trains? Is he privy to how many riders are needed to make the service "successful"??
I know for fact Clean cab has been crew member on a fair amount of these trains, and Conductors have backed the same lackluster ridership numbers.
So why are you trying to start controversy, this is not subchat.
Jeff Smith wrote:I believe the 4th would be LIRR; although it wasn't a one-seat ride, I think they did joint ticketing for the ALP46's coming from the NH Line.No, the LIRR did joint ticketing for any and all NJT trains between NYP and SEC and SEC and MEADOWLANDS.
Jeff Smith wrote:Which, if true, would include the NH line trains.Yes, it included the NH Line train, because west of NYP, that train was a normal NJT train, so it was included in my statement.
In any case, I imagine that LIRR being a joint tenant of NYP would involve coordination with them, whether or not the joint ticketing was limited to the NH line trains, or extended to all NJT trains.
I would also guess that the joint ticketing for the NJT trains included those riding the Harlem and Hudson?
Terrapin Station wrote:The single-ticket / thru-ticketing was in affect for both LIRR and MNCR customers if they so chose to make use of it.How would the LIRR riders make joint use of it? You lost me.
Tommy Meehan wrote:Dang, I meant to say "effect".Terrapin Station wrote:The single-ticket / thru-ticketing was in affect for both LIRR and MNCR customers if they so chose to make use of it.How would the LIRR riders make joint use of it? You lost me.
One way I can see where LIRR would be involved is that IIRC the track between Penn Station and Harold has always been under LIRR jurisdiction.
DutchRailnut wrote:how is LIRR in picture ??LIRR provided trains that operated from Penn Station to Harold Interlocking that MN crews rode on (using M7s) for the purpose of learning the area. LIRR also provided instructors that gave tours of the yards in Penn Station.
they got no say in this operation.
The demise of the tunnel has left railroad officials scrambling to find other, smaller improvements. Every time the Jets or Giants play an afternoon game at the Meadowlands, a special NJ Transit train runs along Metro-North's New Haven line, through Penn and on to New Jersey. That's not about football, said the MTA's planning director, William Wheeler. The MTA is investigating whether it can run trains through Penn and into New Jersey, shaving precious minutes off the amount of time each spends on a platform, freeing up some capacity. It's also looking at running some Metro-North trains into Penn once a project to provide LIRR access into Grand Central Terminal is finished.
Jeff Smith wrote:Apparently, no one has told the Wall Street Journal about the train's demise:No one has told us yet either.
