Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

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  by Ridgefielder
 
Electric to Merritt makes zero sense so far as I can see. I don't have the actual passenger load figures but from what I've seen riding the train it sure doesn't seem like the most heavily-used station on the line. And I'd imagine you'd have to put in a siding for at least temporary storage if you're going to turn a train there.

If I was asked to pick one-- Wilton or Merritt-- as a terminus for electric operations I'd say Wilton, hands-down. But that doesn't change the fact that I think the whole idea of electrification is nonsensical.
  by DutchRailnut
 
Clean Cab wrote:Three words to discourage electrification that I know Dutch Rail Nut will agree with.....................

Wall Street Tunnel!!!!
it had wire in it before, and could easely have it again.
  by Clean Cab
 
Hasn't the overpass beyond the old Wall St Station been rebuilt since the wire came down? The ceiling looks too low for overhead wire.
  by DutchRailnut
 
the road is still on same level and its basicly a single thickness slab over two walls.
  by khansingh
 
I was discussing DB electrification with someone who's not a railfan. When I mentioned that they replaced the electic with diesel locomotives in the early 60's, without missing a beat, she said, "Well, that's when the cost of electricity went up." Is that the case? Was it once economical, but not anymore?
  by DutchRailnut
 
The main reason the Danbury was de-electrified was a incident at Cos Cob powerplant, rendering one of turbines useless.
the turbine was a total loss and was replaced in early 70's by a rotary Converter.

http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/ct/c ... 4041pv.jpg
  by Noel Weaver
 
This is not so, the wires came down because we had a management that was set on removing the wires entirely east of Stamford. Thankfully the railroad went bankrupt before they had a chance to do this and when Penn Central took over they saw the wisdom and usefullness of the wires firsthand.
Rotary convertors were used to produce DC not AC and were common with trolley operations in years past as well as the New York City Transit Authority and the New York Central as well. It was fascinating to watch those things purr and purr they did.
Noel Weaver
  by DutchRailnut
 
Noel In 1962 one turbine got water in turbine blades and got totalled, the Rotary converters were used to produce the 25 Hz, not DC as you said.
They had a huge 60 Hz motor driving a 25 Hz alternator about twice size of a locomotive.
  by Ridgefielder
 
Nothing really new in this story, just that it's appearing in a new outlet.
Ridgefield Press wrote:Boucher would make Danbury line upgrade a top priority

State Senator Toni Boucher (R-Wilton) is urging fellow lawmakers to make the Danbury branch line of Metro North a priority... Senator Boucher, whose district covers Ridgefield, will be supporting a bill that improves performance, increases the number of trains and electrifies the branch.
http://www.theridgefieldpress.com/14645 ... -priority/

Interesting to see where this goes. I know the bill calls for the electrification of *all* the Connecticut MN branchlines, so presumably they're hoping for support from the towns in The Valley.
  by Clean Cab
 
Would I like to see electrification of the Danbury and Waterbury Branches? Heck yes!! Will I ever see it? Heck no!!! :(
  by MetroNorthRider098
 
Anyone know if the Danbury Branch signalization project will cut down travel times? Originally, they said it was supposed to allow for more trains to run, but I'm guessing the state has no money to add more trains (especially since they don't seem to care about the Danbury line). Anyone have any more detail than the few local articles that have discussed it over the past few months? (I can also do a Google search, so please only respond if you have insider information.)
  by Clean Cab
 
The adding of the cab signal system and the proposed increasing of speeds on some parts of the track may shorten travel time, but we're not talking any huge amount of time. Maybe a minute or two at best.
  by DutchRailnut
 
no plans for added trains yet, and no plans to increase speed, in fact it may slow things down as signal system will force speeds lower on approaching final destination.
the max speed for MBS was not even reached, the Branch is 50 mph max and federal limit for MBS is 59 mph.
  by theozno
 
I have the reverse commute everyday! I work for 8am. 1st train gets in at 9:40. How about the route 7 bus? the timing is perfect but it does not start at SONO. It starts 1 mile away at the depot making me have to drive 80 miles.
  by DutchRailnut
 
Lets start a reverse commute, WoW we have one customer, enough reason to create a state defecit.
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