Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

Moderators: GirlOnTheTrain, nomis, FL9AC, Jeff Smith

  by UpperHarlemLine4ever
So, has a contract been awarded for MN, LIRR & Amtrak locos yet? Lots of agencies are ordering Siemens Chargers.
  by Backshophoss
Believe the RFP is still up,no contract award yet,still in design phase due to weight issues on the dual mode model. :wink:
  by deandremouse
Contract probably won’t be awarded till January from what I’ve been hearing
  by blockline4180
So is there a timeline for when the new locomotives might enter service? 2020, 2022, when?

Also, wonder if any other commuter railroad may purchase them when they do get retired?? I know this is probably a better conversation for years down the road!
  by DutchRailnut
no and don't expect an order till all 3 partners get to agreement , LIRR/Amtrak/Metro North as under PRII they need to be a standard set for that type.
  by grobtech
Metro North's engines are being purchased under the 2015-2019 Capital Program. That means approximately 2022 delivery since an award hasn't been awarded and may be another year out. If LIRR pursues this for the 2020-2024 Capital Program, they could have units built at the end of the MNR run, since the manufacturer would still be tooled up for production. The DE's/DM's still have a ways to go. All speculation of course...
  by Steamboat Willie
Some word going around that MN may be borrowing some P40's from Amtrak.
  by njtmnrrbuff
The MNR P32AC-DM units still work well even though they are aging. I didn’t hear anything officially about MNR borrowing P40s from Amtrak. Once I see it, then I won’t be overly surprised. MNR has used leased Amtrak P40s for branchline service during the time when the last of the FL9s were being retired and right before the BL20s entered revenue service.
  by DutchRailnut
the 8 P40's that MN used were surplus units that CDOT leased and then purchased, currently Amtrak has no surplus Locomotives.
only thing available is stripped P40's and 3 wreck damaged P42's being sold for scrap.
  by ConstanceR46
I don't really see why MN would borrow P40s as they're pure diesel and AFAIK need hatches to run into GCT, and i wouldn't say they're too hard of Branch power especially when they have a perfectly good F10 (If push came to shove) lying around.
  by DutchRailnut
perfectly good ?? ehh no after 12 years no maintenance and several borrowed parts , that ship sailed long ago.
  by DutchRailnut
just got proven wrong , but for the price MN could have bought the 6 FL-9m's and fixed them .
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and all of that because to many BL20gh's got send out for re- motoring ?? go figure.
  by ATK
DutchRailnut wrote:just got proven wrong , but for the price MN could have bought the 6 FL-9m's and fixed them.
Are you suggesting that MNR could have rehabbed 6 FL9's AND installed ACSES on those same locomotives for under $700,000?!?!
  by ConstanceR46
Yeah that sounds a bit like a pipe dream especially considering they were in a similar condition to 413 and 2012.
  by DutchRailnut
6 loco's at $70 000 average is 420 000 leaving 350 000 to play with, but then they would own them, and not have nothing to show for that money after lease expires on P42's

and no the 6 CDOT units were not in same condition as 413 and 2012 as CDOT units had a ground up rebuild in 1996 .
and New HEP units in 2001.