Clean Cab wrote:The original topic was are bar cars being phased out? I think the answer has been made clear, yes. There are 9 bar pairs still in service (of the original 20). The two pairs that did not go through CSR will be the first ones retired followed eventually by the other 7. So far there are no concrete plans to create any M8 type of bar cars. Although the M8 contract did have a clause for "up to" 24 bar cars in it."Clear?" With all due respects I wouldn't come to that conclusion. Fact is, the 9 pairs still in service are nine of Connecticut's original ten.The other 10 belonged to New York MTA and were converted nearly 30 years ago. Some readers of this forum probably remember the battle royale over that --- a big commuter uprising. FWIW, I was part of it. New York ignored the uprising and did the conversion. Conn. DOT was going to do so; but the governor of CT (Bill O'Neill at the time) wisely listened to the customer and overruled the DOT.
And, by the way, there is indeed an intent to have some ---- I do not know how many, although undoubtedy nothing like 24 since they only have 10 now! --- M8 bar cars. The plan for them was posted on this forum once, and I have it somewhere although I can't lay my hands on it right now . The last we heard, they were going to be done at the end of the project, and the existing M2 bar cars would be te last cars replaced.