Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

Moderators: GirlOnTheTrain, nomis, FL9AC, Jeff Smith

  by Jeff Smith
Would Metro North, specifically the New Haven Line, benefit from more layup yards? IIRC, these are the MNRR yards:

-New Haven Line: New Rochelle (MOW mostly), Stamford, East Bridgeport, New Haven. I assume consists lay up at New Canaan; I know they do at Danbury, none at Waterbury
-Harlem Line: NWP, Southeast
-Hudson Line: Croton Harmon, Poughkeepsie

-PV: Spring Valley
-PJ: Suffern, one proposed mid PJ, Port Jervis

It seems to me that given the space available on the New Haven main line ROW owing to the former existence of the New York Westchester and Boston Railway (NYW&B), there'd be some space to prevent the need to run consists all the way to Stamford, Bridgeport, or New Haven. IIRC, they turn some sets now at PIKE.

Could layup yards or tracks for turning trains be installed anywhere along the main line? I don't think there's a huge need at New Rochelle to turn, at least not until Penn Access opens. However, there are a lot of trains that are "limited express" trains during rush hour which start at various spots along the main line. It might be useful to have these start at alternate points, rather than gumming up the works coming out of the Stamford Yard.

I'm thinking specifically of certain locations where space still exists from the old "Westchester" ROW. Port Chester behind what is now Kohl's would seem a good spot for some long sidings to turn trains for starts at Rye or Harrison. There's the old LifeSaver freight yard just north of PC, and there used to be a coach yard just across the Byram River, which now privately owned but looks vacant.

It just seems to me like it would save a lot of deadheading.
  by Backshophoss
You forgot Wassic has a layup yard,Danbury beyond the "new" station is considered yard/interchange track to HRRC/P&W freights,New Canaan sets retreat to Stamford yard.
Tarrytown had a yard/team track,was a display site for the Freedom Train way back then. Dock yard in Sono is returning to service
  by Rockingham Racer
New Rochelle wasn't a layup yard, IIRC. A few rush hour trains did turn there, though, once upon a time. Don't know if that's still a practice. With the proposed service to Penn Station on the Hell Gate Line, it might be that the New Rochelle Yard might be used.
  by njtmnrrbuff
If many of the "East Bronx" trains are only going to run between NRO and NYP, the trains have to lay over somewhere besides the station in NRO and reactivating the yard will probably be the answer.
  by RearOfSignal
Other places they turn trains are: Mt. Vernon West Yard (west side, passenger yard) and track 3 at CP 137 (not a yard technically)
  by Backshophoss
The yard at BN(Putnam remains),while not a layup yard,is the Trash/recycling yard for GCT.
HighBridge yard replaces some of the tracks at GCT lost to the LIRR(ESA) deep bsaement station,includes a running repair shop that was at GCT.
HAS Croton East yard been abandoned? Or still used as part of the Harmon Deadline/scrapping?