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danib62 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:32 pm I wonder if takes the bus and the farebox is broken if he mails the T a check...If an employee actively tells me I don't have to pay--such as when the driver tells me not to bother with the fair box on a bus cuz it's broken-- then I don't pay.
Arlington wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:23 amDanib62, Ishould have been more specific: once first used a paper or m ticket should permit unlimited gate uses within the next 3 hours (or whatever the real mticket/ticket duration is).The thing is, the gates only check for a valid ticket. It does not invalidate the ticket. And if the ticket isn't actually used, then it is still a valid ticket. What if I used a paper ticket, went into the platform area, got an important phone call, and had to leave, and ended up not taking the ride? Would I never be able to use that ticket to get to the plaform again? The ticket is for a ride, which I did not take, not platform access.
BandA wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:44 pm...it isn't fair, nor is paying $6.50 for an 8 mile trip (80 cents per mile), which is 2.9 times the cost of "rapid transit" in the same area and more than my actual cost of driving including tolls, with four empty seats and luggage compartment to spare! Yet the MBTA claims to be losing money on the $6.50 fare...Interesting that the person who touts repeatedly that the MBTA is insolvent and should be in receivership now complains that their prices are too high.
danib62 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:01 amThat's different. The value has been deducted and the "ride" is "collected". The commuter rail ticket would still be valid for travel. If the gates "collected" the ticket, then that would be an equivalency. Even if the gates wouldn't let me back through, the ticket is still valid, and I could still use the ticket for an inbound ride as the ticket has not been "used." Maybe the gates should have a scanner to tap out as well so that if lets say I tap a ticket to get in, and then tap it within a short period of time to get out, it would know. It would also catch any inbound fare evaders, although they'd have to set up a system where fare evaders would have the ability to pay to get out. (Hey, it works for WMATA!)
BandA wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:44 pmYou could also position observers at the fare gates & arrest people using already punched single-ride tickets in the fare gates.If they can have that many observers watching the gates, then why would the gates be necessary at all?
Arborwayfan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:21 pmTap-on, tap-off POP with a unified fare structure for all modes and roving inspectors charging 10x the fare as a fine seems like it would be simpler, more effective, faster, and less morally uncertain all around.I think that is the ultimate plan, and these gates will be utilized in that fashion as tapping targets when AFC 2.0 is deployed.
... refund for my Green Line ride from GC to Cleveland Circle on that hot summer day when they lost power just east of Park Street and I had to walk in the tunnel in the dark to Boylston and take a cab ... just to refund me the $2.25 (at the time) fare I paid ...Have you ever ridden the commuter rail using a single ride ticket and the conductor did not come by? If so then call it even.
... If an employee actively tells me I don't have to pay--such as when the driver tells me not to bother with the fair box on a bus 'cuz' it's broken ...... or if someone in a wheelchair is boarding via the ramp in the middle of a Type 8 (has stairs between the door and the farebox) ...
... 40 gates would process 400 in a minute and a whole 1400 person train in 3minutes 30 seconds ...That would not be correct because we need to allow time for both boarding passengers and exiting passengers.
Disney Guy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:36 amSo that's $7. The taxi cost me $20, so I'd be 1/3 of the way there. But I've already been told I should activate my ticket before boarding, so now I'm more confused!... refund for my Green Line ride from GC to Cleveland Circle on that hot summer day when they lost power just east of Park Street and I had to walk in the tunnel in the dark to Boylston and take a cab ... just to refund me the $2.25 (at the time) fare I paid ...Have you ever ridden the commuter rail using a single ride ticket and the conductor did not come by? If so then call it even.