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  • Smoke incident near L'Enfant Plaza 1/12/201

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Discussion related to DC area passenger rail services from Northern Virginia to Baltimore, MD. Includes Light Rail and Baltimore Subway.

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 #1311913  by JDC
 
A developing story - - -

L'Enfant Plaza was evacuated and closed due to smoke, starting around 3:30 PM today. Metro trains on B/S/O lines are bypassing L'Enfant, and there are no Yellow or Green line trains between Mt. Vernon Sq. and Pentagon/Navy Yard. Trains are turning back at those locations.

The WP has a story collecting updates and photos: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dr- ... for-smoke/.

Twitter user collecting interesting tweets indicating that a train is being evacuated: https://twitter.com/DildineWTOP/status/ ... 0188241920; https://twitter.com/DildineWTOP/status/ ... 0994061312; https://twitter.com/DildineWTOP/status/ ... 9721470977.

DC Fire Dept. tweeted and called it a 'mass casualty event', with the accompanying concerns/consternation over the use of that term.

NBC News 4 reported that passengers are being evacuated from trains and using vent shafts to reach the surface.
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 #1311916  by JDC
 
 #1311926  by JDC
 
VIDEO from inside a car: http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/lo ... video.html

WAMU has a great story summarizing today's facts as currently known: http://wamu.org/news/15/01/12/smoke_in_ ... _suspended

That WAMU story has great photos and videos and interviews (recorded) with those onboard. The videos are downright scary, and I can see them playing on a screen during an oversight hearing.
 #1311927  by JDC
 
Sarles is being interviewed live on NBC 4 right now; confirms 1 FATALITY and 2 in CRITICAL CONDITION. Fatality is woman who was on stricken Yellow line train.
 #1311993  by JDC
 
For service today, January 13, Metro has modified its regular operations so that there are no Yellow line trains, with Blue line trains running between Huntington and Largo Town Center. To accommodate extra trains through Rosslyn, the Orange and Silver lines are operating on reduced headways. Green line trains servicing L'Enfant Plaza as normal, as the site of yesterday's incident is after the split for Branch Ave/Huntington. No word yet on when Yellow line service will resume.
 #1311994  by JDC
 
In today's WP article on the incident, they have the following initial summary from the NTSB: "And authorities now believe they know why the train, which had just left the L’Enfant Plaza station, came to a halt about 800 feet into the tunnel. The National Transportation Safety Board said “an electrical arcing event” occurred about 1,100 feet in front of the train. The event filled the tunnel with smoke, the NTSB said. The agency said the arcing involved cables that power the third rail. Arcing is often connected with short circuits and may generate smoke. There did not appear to have been a fire."
 #1312023  by pumpers
 
JDC wrote:In today's WP article on the incident, they have the following initial summary from the NTSB: "And authorities now believe they know why the train, which had just left the L’Enfant Plaza station, came to a halt about 800 feet into the tunnel. The National Transportation Safety Board said “an electrical arcing event” occurred about 1,100 feet in front of the train. The event filled the tunnel with smoke, the NTSB said. The agency said the arcing involved cables that power the third rail. Arcing is often connected with short circuits and may generate smoke. There did not appear to have been a fire."
It doesn't all make sense yet in my mind. Does an "arcing event" lead to circuit breakers switching off? If so that would explain why the train stopped.
I find it hard to believe that the arcing led to breakers shutting off the power right away, because if there was really no fire as in the quote above, and the arcing was stopped from the power being off, what was creating all the smoke for that 30 minutes or so? There must be more to the story, like the burning 3rd rail covers as posted earlier (are they made of plastic???).
JS
Or are voltage oscillations from the arcing enough to stop the train?
 #1312029  by JackRussell
 
pumpers wrote: It doesn't all make sense yet in my mind. Does an "arcing event" lead to circuit breakers switching off?
It depends on how much current is being pulled. In normal usage, the circuit could draw thousands of amps