• MTA Purple Line Bethesda - New Carrollton Light Rail

  • Discussion related to DC area passenger rail services from Northern Virginia to Baltimore, MD. Includes Light Rail and Baltimore Subway.
Discussion related to DC area passenger rail services from Northern Virginia to Baltimore, MD. Includes Light Rail and Baltimore Subway.

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  by farecard
 
I was on Kenilworth Ave a few weeks ago and they were demolishing the ?Korean? building at River Rd, the Wendy's was closed, & the Shell at E/W Highway was replaced with a H-pylon.
  by drwho9437
 
PLTC have decided to quit the project:
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/ ... ces-Intent

PLTC is the construction contract under PLTP
http://www.purplelinetransitpartners.com/about/team/

I don't understand how this works exactly. Does it mean Fluor continues on but the other two wanted out?
Does it mean the entire P3 has to be litigated or redone?
Does it mean that PLTP has to find a sub for the original PLTC?

Can anyone who knows more about construction contracts explain what happens now, it seems like they are probably 50% done the line now and much more than 50% done the complex major structures (the yard building is closed up, Bethesda shaft is pretty much at the bottom, the Tunnel in Long Branch is lined, the larger part of the bridge structure in Silver Spring is hung, the concrete under the BW parkway seems done, etc.)

I'm sure we will eventually get news from MDOT but Hogan has a lot going on right now and the state doesn't exactly have a lot of money to go forward right now.
  by Jeff Smith
 
I'm sure the contract must have a default provision/penalty.
  by Jeff Smith
 
I'm sure the contract must have a default provision/penalty.
  by drwho9437
 
So to be clear PLTP isn't stopping only PLTC even if the letter happens as written. I still have no idea what that means really but the P3 can continue in principle with a different construction group. I know that happened at Vogel Nuclear plant with Fluor (incidentally), the scale of the money at stake is similar. I really don't understand what the MTA/PLTP will be doing.
  by STrRedWolf
 
Jeff Smith wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 12:23 pm I'm sure the contract must have a default provision/penalty.
Worse. The contract has an escape clause for the contractor if the delay is over one year.

The delay is reaching three years.
  by dgvrengineer
 
Looks like the state is doing what the NIMBYS haven't been able to do, stop construction on the Purple Line, with all the delays.
  by drwho9437
 
To be clear some of the delays were due to the law suits. Some are due to CSX moving goal posts. Some are due to late environmental reviews. They don't add up to 3 years of actual schedule slip because tasks don't run in series, they run in parallel unless there is a dependency of one on the other and if you read the letter it is clear that the simple addition of the times of each task delay is not the project delay but the lawyers have for some reason just added all the sub-task delays as a project delay (this is project management 101 that, this isn't the case).

Hopefully someone will actually know something about contracting and explain how this sort of issue is normally settled. There was a suggestion somewhere that PLTP might eat PLTC costs so they weren't fined. I have no idea how these contracts work on that sort of level. I wish the MTA would make a more full comment. Construction updates on the Glenridge section were posted on 5/5, it is estimated at 28% complete. I would have thought it more than that having seen the maintenance facility closed up and most of the bridges in place, but I didn't know they needed a full water main relocation, I thought there was just concern of how close it was in one spot.
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