• **LONG ISLAND PRESERVATION NEWS**

  • Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.
Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

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  by Twin Forks NRHS
 
Over the past several weeks, Twin Forks has been working diligently, but cautiously, on our equipment. One project that we have been doing is replacing windows in our Cabooses C-63 and C-64. We started with the North side of C-63 and it looks fantastic!
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We plan to replace the rest of the bay windows in C-63 and the windows on the south side of C-64. Our project after replacing those windows is to figure out what we are going to do with the North side of C-64. C-64 currently has an old P72 window screwed on and we are looking into options as to how to put a sliding window in that bay.
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Hope everyone is doing well during this time.
  by workextra
 
Hey, to second the previous posters progress report. I would
Like to follow up with saying that the letters are done and drawn up, and the organization is looking for an outfit capable of printing exterior grade decals on (3M) SCPM-3 tape. The letters measure roughly to about 12”tall and 4” wide (again those numbers are rough numbers to fit into a printer not the actual size, which is correct off actual period work from the LIRR)
If you’re a printing outfit/railroad print shop and are able help them out please post a reply here or email: [email protected] or PM them here.
The sooner they can print the lettering decals the sooner they can apply it to the cabooses.
Thanks for your help.
  by Twin Forks NRHS
 
With this rainy day, we feel that yet another update is needed, yet this time on our B&M car. We have been working hard on figuring out the electrical system of the car. The Long Island redid the system in the 1970's when the car was converted to a Sandite car. The car now has three circuits. One for the lights, a second for what we think is for backup lights and a third for the HVAC system. About a week ago we got all but three lights to turn on!
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In the second photograph, you may notice that the marker lenses are missing. It turns out that they were still on the car and intact! They were painted over by the Long Island so many times that they looked like metal patches covering the housing!
We also discovered that the Air Conditioning unit is STILL intact on the car, although the motor we suspect had been changed out. The vents and Freon piping is all still intact! We also discovered that the cars original water tanks and fill piping leading to these tanks is also still intact!
The first photograph may look a little odd to someone who had been in the car before however. Thats because we removed one of the walls that the railroad had installed during the cars rebuild. Doing this really opened up the inside of the car.
On the outside of the car, work also started on removing the Sandite equipment that the railroad installed. The first thing to go was the vents that hung down off the car. They were annoying to remove and they required lots of effort, and some creative language, but they did finally come off.
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Work will continue on the car over the next several months. We plan to keep everyone updated as work progresses.
  by photobug56
 
Any chance for a bit of background and summary?

Thanks!
  by Twin Forks NRHS
 
photobug56 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:35 pm Any chance for a bit of background and summary?

Thanks!
What would you like a background on? The history of the car?
  by nyandw
 
Twin Forks NRHS wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 9:16 pm Over the past several weeks, Twin Forks has been working diligently, but cautiously, on our equipment. One project that we have been doing is replacing windows in our Cabooses C-63 and C-64. We started with the North side of C-63 and it looks fantastic! Hope everyone is doing well during this time.
Very Nice! :-D
Chief Mechanical Officer, Trustee: Joe Vila provided the info to help me create the following diagram for this class caboose: Image LIRR N22B C62 diagram Info: -Twin Forks NRHS Diagram: Steven Lynch More info on this caboose: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/lirrcabooseroster.htm
  by RGlueck
 
Restoration is the most difficult and yet most rewarding work in the railroading hobbies. Kudos to everyone involved in these projects.
  by Twin Forks NRHS
 
RGlueck wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:45 am Restoration is the most difficult and yet most rewarding work in the railroading hobbies. Kudos to everyone involved in these projects.
We have to 100% agree with you on that one! That is why we have such a dedicated group of young volunteers! Just yesterday one of our volunteers went out and did a second coat of paint on the inside of C-64. They did most of the caboose in one day! We chose "Smoke Gray" because it wont show dirt as much as the lighter color did, but we still think to looks good. C-63 will soon follow with the "Smoke Gray" interior. You can see the first coat which was a lighter gray above the filing cabinet. Once it comes time to do a full blown restoration, the two will receive the original green interior color.
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  by RGlueck
 
Since you have two nearly identical cabooses of the same class, I would urge you to re-paint one of the exteriors as delivered, in orange and black, with block lettering. Coupled together, that presentation better tells the LIRR story (in my opinion). I know, it's money and effort. The expanded representation of Long Island caboose types would be my preference. The interiors of vastly different cars would be best restored to "in service" styles. One might serve as your office.
What is critical is the protection from vandalism and break-ins.
Of course, I have no authority to make sweeping changes, but having lived through all these eras and paint schemes, that is my suggestion.
  by Twin Forks NRHS
 
Hello RGlueck,
Thank you for the suggestion! The eventual plan is to do that in due time. The main reason why we painted both cabooses in Yellow and Blue is because the Orange and Black as-delivered scheme is already vastly represented. We actually already own a caboose in that very scheme(C-60 in the transit museum). Out side of our C-60, the rest of the museums and organizations on Long Island have their caboose in Orange and Black. OBRMs 50, RMLIs 68, Lindenhursts 53 and the Shiff BoyScout Camps caboose are all in orange and black. The Long Island even has 66 in that scheme. The caboose in Babylon Team Yard on the Central Branch is in orange and black as well. We went with the Yellow and Blue simply because no one else has a caboose in that scheme on or around Long Island.
Keep an eye out by the way, we are looking to letter the two in the "Speed Lettering" in the near future.
  by Twin Forks NRHS
 
Hello everyone!
It has been quite a while since we talked about them, but we have an update on our Missouri Pacific cabooses! We need to raise $25000 to move them from their current location by truck. Attached is a link to the GoFundMe that we have set up. If you would rather send it directly to the chapter, you can send us a check as well. Any donation is greatly appreciated!
EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS SO PLEASE DONATE IF YOU CAN!
https://gf.me/u/yp9gnu
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  by Twin Forks NRHS
 
Work on our Osgood Bradley car has finally begun thanks to a $4000 grant from the National NRHS! Over the past two weekends we have removed the bottom sill of the south side of the car, removed the southwest trap and stairs and anticipate starting to rebuild the rotted away steel next weekend (11/14/2020) Check out the photographs of the work we have done over the past two weekends!

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The first cuts being made to 4590s body

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Here we see the our team of volunteers cutting away at the bottom of the sill.

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By the end of Sunday (11/1/2020) The bottom of the body has been cut away.

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On Saturday (11/7/2020) We removed the Trap and steps on the Southwest end.

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After the Trap was removed, The steps were removed to access the frame and make working on this end easier.

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And here is the car at the end of the day with the steps removed.

Stay tuned for more updates regarding B&M 4590! We are working with pride on this car knowing that it one of the only ones left of its kind in existence!
  by jhdeasy
 
Twin Forks NRHS wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:14 pm Hello everyone!
It has been quite a while since we talked about them, but we have an update on our Missouri Pacific cabooses! We need to raise $25000 to move them from their current location by truck. Attached is a link to the GoFundMe that we have set up. If you would rather send it directly to the chapter, you can send us a check as well. Any donation is greatly appreciated!
EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS SO PLEASE DONATE IF YOU CAN!
https://gf.me/u/yp9gnu
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Why the interest in Missouri Pacific cabooses by a Long Island NY organization?

Wouldn’t it make more sense to focus on equipment from LIRR and railroads that operated in close proximity to the LIRR?
  by Twin Forks NRHS
 
jhdeasy wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:58 pm
Twin Forks NRHS wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:14 pm Hello everyone!
It has been quite a while since we talked about them, but we have an update on our Missouri Pacific cabooses! We need to raise $25000 to move them from their current location by truck. Attached is a link to the GoFundMe that we have set up. If you would rather send it directly to the chapter, you can send us a check as well. Any donation is greatly appreciated!
EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS SO PLEASE DONATE IF YOU CAN!
https://gf.me/u/yp9gnu
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Why the interest in Missouri Pacific cabooses by a Long Island NY organization?

Wouldn’t it make more sense to focus on equipment from LIRR and railroads that operated in close proximity to the LIRR?
Our main focus is infact Long Island Equipment, however, many neat pieces of equipment have been lost due to the whole "If it is not Long Island, its not worth saving" mentality. The two cabooses are unique because they were Home-Built by the MP using old boxcar frames, and the boxcar used to be a 40ft boxcar and was extended by the P&LE. Every piece of equipment we own has its own unique history and we would like to tell its story, as well as the story of the railroad that owned it. We also needed the 50ft boxcar for storage, and the two cabooses came with it.

Also, the LIRR was a very unique railroad and it is difficult to tell the story of railroading as a whole without non-Long Island equipment present. You can go to any museum on Long Island and everything you see (With the exception of RMLIs 40ft "PRR" Boxcar and OBRMs 40ft NYNH&H boxcar) is Long Island. The same reason why we are returning our 4590 back to its B&M heritage we have the two MP cabooses and boxcar and we painted our two N22B cabooses into Blue and Yellow, for variety.
  by RGlueck
 
Your thinking is truly railroad preservation in the best sense. Even if you do not decide to retain one or more of these cars in the future, they are saved, and extant because of your efforts. I am especially interested in the B&M coach and how it will be presented. Fine work on all parts. Keep it up and keep us apprised of the continuing work.
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