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Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

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  by Jeff Smith
 
BuddR32 wrote:
Jeff Smith wrote:Refresh my memory; will the 9’s have over and under running shoes like the M8’s?
No they have the over riding shoes only.
Thanks!
  by Train2009
 
gregorygrice wrote:They've been testing almost every night excluding weekends.
A 6 car M9 set did went out this morning as seen at Hillside - Queens headed westbound at 9:22 AM.
  by gregorygrice
 
geico wrote:Any updates?
Still testing.
  by geico
 
6 months + on testing. The cars will be obsolete at this point by the time they are put in service.
Either admit Kawasaki screwed up building them or publish a schedule of what's going on.
  by DutchRailnut
 
they are not going into service until sufficient cars are available.
as for testing it is FRA who demands xxx amount of trouble free hours of operation , any fault event resets clock to zero.
  by hs3730
 
geico wrote:6 months + on testing. The cars will be obsolete at this point by the time they are put in service.
Either admit Kawasaki screwed up building them or publish a schedule of what's going on.
Until the cars are sent back to Kawasaki in Nebraska or Japan, no one has screwed up (yet).
  by gregorygrice
 
geico wrote:or publish a schedule of what's going on.
No one is obligated to publish a "schedule" here. That is not public information. They will test as long as they have to make sure everything is the way they want it before mass production. If the cars were released with issues aim sure you'd be one of the first to criticize.

Be patient.
  by Head-end View
 
Fifty years ago, the brand new M-1's were put into service without sufficient testing and de-bugging and very quickly developed propulsion problems causing large numbers of them to be taken out-of-service for repairs. This was the infamous summer of 1970 where some old MP-54's had already been retired and the remaining ones were barely functional. That entire summer roughly six rush-hour trains were cancelled every morning and evening rush hour due to shortage of trains.

So I guess they don't want to repeat that kind of debacle ever again. :wink:
  by gregorygrice
 
Head-end View wrote:Fifty years ago, the brand new M-1's were put into service without sufficient testing and de-bugging and very quickly developed propulsion problems causing large numbers of them to be taken out-of-service for repairs. This was the infamous summer of 1970 where some old MP-54's had already been retired and the remaining ones were barely functional. That entire summer roughly six rush-hour trains were cancelled every morning and evening rush hour due to shortage of trains.

So I guess they don't want to repeat that kind of debacle ever again. :wink:
That and standards are different today than they were then.
  by jtrain22
 
geico wrote:6 months + on testing. The cars will be obsolete at this point by the time they are put in service.
Either admit Kawasaki screwed up building them or publish a schedule of what's going on.
Back in October LIRR twitter said they are scheduled to enter service May 2019.

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  by Backshophoss
 
What is the minimum amount of cars(pairs) needed to begin in service use of the M-9's??
  by BuddR32
 
Backshophoss wrote:What is the minimum amount of cars(pairs) needed to begin in service use of the M-9's??
You could see as few as three pairs introduced into revenue service, as a six car train on some runs. If there's an issue with one car however, they won't run just four cars.

What the plan is however, I don't know.
  by DutchRailnut
 
officially no for service, they can be coupled for equipment moves.
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