In locomotives with the 567 Prime mover, is the diesel engine and generator oriented such that the generator is closer to the cab or is it the other way around?
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All of the ones I've seen had the generator on the cab end, except for E units which had the second prime mover reversed so that the generator was toward the rear of the unit.
On E units the engines face one forward other backwards each facing its own electric cabinet (one for each truck)
On any other EMD the engine faces the electric cabinet normaly located between cab end engineroom.
On any other EMD the engine faces the electric cabinet normaly located between cab end engineroom.
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as an interesting note, the "front" of the Prime Mover is the "accessory" end - where the water pumps, the governor, the Air Compressor and all those goodies live. the rear end of the prime mover, also called the Generator End, is what attaches to the Main Generator.
So on say a low nose GP30 or SD35, you have the F end of the loco, where the cab is (but some railroads did change the F end to the long hood, especially wiht high short hoods) but looking at the prime mover inside of the loco, the rear of the prime mover is towards the F end, while the front of the prime mover is facing the R end.
So on say a low nose GP30 or SD35, you have the F end of the loco, where the cab is (but some railroads did change the F end to the long hood, especially wiht high short hoods) but looking at the prime mover inside of the loco, the rear of the prime mover is towards the F end, while the front of the prime mover is facing the R end.
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Well, technically, the answer is no, the cab is not closer to the generator. (this would be the other way around 
) The "free end" of the diesel, is the opposite end, from the generator. The "normal" orientation of the free end, is towards the end of the long hood. Much shorter runs, of HV cables, between the generator and the electrical cabinet, this way. Regards.. 
) The "free end" of the diesel, is the opposite end, from the generator. The "normal" orientation of the free end, is towards the end of the long hood. Much shorter runs, of HV cables, between the generator and the electrical cabinet, this way. Regards.. Traveling Engineer, Coast to Coast, Border to Border.
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Most diesels the electic cabinet is between cab and engine room to add as safety/noise barrier. nobody wants a screamning diesel 2 foot from cab.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???
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never been in a E6 or 7 but probably easier to have two electric cabinets than one big one.
or easier to get all fuel water and oil connections to be in one location.
or easier to get all fuel water and oil connections to be in one location.
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DutchRailnut wrote:Most diesels the electic cabinet is between cab and engine room to add as safety/noise barrier. nobody wants a screamning diesel 2 foot from cab.I never really minded the F-40PH screaming in my ears, all day long, as the ....WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY................... HUH, WHAT WAS THAT........
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If the sequence of changes in the E units and F units are of particular interest, there is a very detailed presentation called "What's In Those Covered Wagons?" that was put together by a former EMD employee. It illustrates the sequence of design changes that took place in the E-units with pictures of the concept models, diagrams of the interior details, and comparative walk around photos in the interiors, and compares them with ALCO's DL-109 and PA locomotives. It has been presented at some conventions and museum events in the Northeast and Midwest over the last few years. The program was shown in June at the Hub Division NMRA Convention in Massachusetts.
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lutherkb wrote:In locomotives with the 567 Prime mover, is the diesel engine and generator oriented such that the generator is closer to the cab or is it the other way around?The 567 spanned a few decades but has a common orientation with the 645 & 710. Economically for a basic unit, in terms of installation labor, maintenance labor, and copper costs, placing the control stand, HVC and generator in close proximity reduces the cost of the choo choo.
This way when a customer deviates from the basic design, the price goes up. 
This is why EMD engines ride "Backwards" on the underbody !!