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 #234204  by BRAKEMAN
 
Hi,
Our air brake sys (26l) don’t have any dryer so in very cold water brake circuit elements freeze and air brake system don’t work properly . If we don’t want to buy dryer what do we have to do for solve this problem. Can we use anti- freeze ? which anti freeze?
Please guide us.

 #234258  by BlackDog
 
The WC used to have a contraption set up at the air compressor where you could pour Isopropyl (sp?) alcohol into the air line going from the compressor to the after coolers and main reservoirs.

 #234312  by DutchRailnut
 
Adding alcohol or any other additive to Brake systems is now illegal as per FRA rules.
Only air is allowed so driers is only way to go my friend.

 #234350  by GOLDEN-ARM
 
I concur with DRN. There is no longer a way to manually add substances into a trains air system. Some locomotives have been equipped, in the past, with a compressor mounted injection system, in an attempt to add "anti-freeze" protection, or lubricants, into the compressed air. The law now mandates that Railroads shall be responsible for KNOWING that the air brake system has been drained, and is free of water and contaminants, on all locomotives, and compressed air sources. It is now the law (although most don't know, or care) that the locomotive air reservoirs must be drained, or known to be free of water, by EVERY employee assigned to a train, using those locomotives. The brakeman, and even the student now carry the same burden of responsibility, in knowing the compressed air system is functioning, and free of water or contaminants. Failure to drain those reservoirs, when taking charge of locomotives, carries a rather hefty fine, for the "willful violation" of failure to drain those reservoirs. All employees on that job now carry the same burden, of paying that fine, not just the engineer. (a willful violation means you got on the power, and started to use it, without draining the reservoirs, or observing each auto-drain valve, and seeing it function as intended.) Regards :(

 #234903  by BRAKEMAN
 
THANKS
We know that at all so we’re going to buy some dryers for our locos but it takes a lot of time, so until we equip all of our locos with dryers please tell us what kind of alcohol we must use to solve this problem. Please if it’s possible send me some spec & curve and effect of that alcohol on brake elements.
What can we do except of that way? Can we use cheap filters?

 #234912  by GOLDEN-ARM
 
Try draining the reservoirs regularly, if the auto drains don't work/aren't there. When functioning properly, this valves remove most, if not all collected, liquified water, from the system. Air dryers help, in areas of high humidity, which is generally not a problem in freezing weather. If you are experiencing such problems, in frozen temperatures, you might investigate possible water leak, in the air compressor, into the reservoirs. BTW, just exactly where are you located, with freezing temperatures, and high humidity? I sure wanna avoid THAT place......... :wink:

 #235319  by BRAKEMAN
 
THANKS :P

 #235446  by DutchRailnut
 
Alcohol is not compatible with newer brake valve rebuilt kits, the Neoprene rots and causes leaks inside, resulting in brake failures.

 #236671  by BRAKEMAN
 
Thanks. :P