• SU99/SU100 Thread

  • Discussion related to New York, Susquehanna & Western operations past and present. Also includes some discussion related to Deleware Otsego owned and operated shortlines. Official web site can be found here: NYSW.COM.
Discussion related to New York, Susquehanna & Western operations past and present. Also includes some discussion related to Deleware Otsego owned and operated shortlines. Official web site can be found here: NYSW.COM.

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  by n01jd1
 
Here are two videos of NYSW 3634, 3020, 3672, and 3664 on SU-99 stalled at Butler, NJ 6/3/2006. I had to break the video into two parts because You Tube has a ten minute limit of video clips.

Part one: The SU-99 stalls at Butler. There is great audio of the 3634's "howling" turbo charger in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl5qntyg8bc

Part two: A mechanic has arrived to assist and turns the EMD/MLW lashup into a doubleheader in order to get the 99 moving. There is great audio of the 3636 and the MLW's slipping in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkxKTbGMu9c

Enjoy!
  by n01jd1
 
Here is a video of NYSW 3012, 3016, 3014, and 3634 on SU-99 at Butler, NJ 8/25/2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsuaXfhpchk

Enjoy!
  by Jtgshu
 
yea, that audio is great, espeically in the second clip.......

Good to see 40 year locos working their heart out doing what they were designed to do so long ago!

(or was one not doing that, and thats why it stalled? hahahh)

I can smell those traction motors cooking from here!!!
  by Noel Weaver
 
A whole lot of factors here. Major up grade, raining and bad rail conditions, probably little or no sand, one engine either
dead or not loading and an overloaded train.
I wonder what that rail looks like down by the crossing where it appears that the train was straining pretty hard. I would
hope the railroad inspects the rail in that area before running any more trains over it.
No sand, no go, if I had been the engineer on a train like that one over a line like the NYS&W, I would have made sure the
sand was working before I started out and if it wasn't working, I would have gotten it working or I would not have gone at
least not without a long discussion with somebody in authority.
I remember in my working days on a passenger train out of Grand Central Terminal with a pair of FL-9's and 10 coaches on a
train to Danbury. I raised hell in GCT because of a total lack of sand on both units. I was ordered out by an official but I
made sure that I had a witness (the fireman at the time) and noted the name of the official. We made it as far as Wilton
on the branch with a delay but we could not get around the hill and up the grade leaving the station on the northbound trip.
We ended up setting out 6 cars at Wilton on the siding and going the rest of the way with four head cars. The next time I
had a complaint about the power, they listened to me and at least tried to do something about it.
My guess with this particular train that one of the Alcos was down and maybe the second EMD unit was not loading properly
either. Three six packs working good should have been able to handle this train unless he had 150 cars and I do not think
that train was that long or heavy.
Noel Weaver
  by trainwayne1
 
I grew up in Butler, and that grade has been a thorn in the side of the Susquehanna for years. In the early 60's, I remember seeing 5 RS-1's struggling up the grade past the station at 3-4 MPH on a hot day, every door on the hoods open to keep them from overheating. The grade is approx. 7 miles long, starting in Riverdale and uphill all the way to the spot where the original Green Pond Jct. was. In later years, the stack trains sometimes had problems stalling too....with the crew of the local train being sent to shove up the hill with a single GP-18 or whatever power they had. Needless to say, there were a lot of concerns when a train stalled in town as the line literally cuts the town in half and isolated the fire department from half the town without taking a 4 mile detour to get around the train.
  by Steve F45
 
before the nysw rebuilt the road fleet and had the scale installed. almost every night there was a set of pushers on the rear. Made for some great railroading for me. I didn't follow the nysw back in the daysof the stacks so this was like going back in time for me in terms of this video.
  by Dougster
 
Interesting that there were very few trash cars in the train. Usually more than half of this train is C&D cars.

Doug
  by blockline4180
 
Dougster wrote:Interesting that there were very few trash cars in the train. Usually more than half of this train is C&D cars.

Doug

True, but there did seem like an unusually large amount of autoracks... Mondays trains are usually short anyway!
  by airman00
 
cool pictures!!
  by rcbsd45
 
Heres a few more images of the Friday monster SU-99. I believe the car count was over 90. The NS 5294 was isolated until needed at Midland Park, and west of Bloomingdale up and over the mountain. In any event....

First, a view of the new "dirty dirt" containers:

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1611500


Next, a couple of self explanatory views of the WS-3 which assembled the train at Cross St, then shoved it east of the drawbridge at Bergen Turnpike, and boarded the road crew there:

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1611501


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1611502


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1611509


and finally, a couple of views with the road crew on board and westbound:


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1611503


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1611511


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1611507



Thats it for now. A disabled NJT bus on Rte 23 North near Smoke Rise created a heavy traffic jam that prevented any further chasing. In any event, enjoy!

RCB
  by Tri-State Tom
 
Ralph -

Very dramatic and enjoyable shots there !

Not up on the Q power but was that an SD40T leading a CSX GP40, 2 Q SD45's with an NS GP38-2 ?

thanks.
  by ascotell
 
Great Shots..... Wish I can take photos....Get out of work to late. :(
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