1802 back at work on the Northern Division

[rcbsd45]

I was able to slip north for a 24 hour visit to north country, and
was able to catch the 1802 hustling cars south from Apuilia. I had
hoped to get a bit farther north, but ran into the CL-1(and its
esteemed crew)just south of Tully heading south for Cortland with one
car for Natruim, and "a bunch" for Suit Kote. Here are the images of
the chase (so to speak) from there into Cortland:

First off, just south of Tully(although probably closer to Preble):


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1199407


Next a pair of shots at(or at least pretty much close to) Preble:

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1199408

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1199410

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1199409


Next, coming through Homer:

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1199411


And finally, two images in the last gasps of light as the train
arrives in Cortland:
(I have to get the story on the stuffed bear on the ground next to
the tracks!)

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1199412

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1199413



And to round things out, here's a couple of images from the Jersey
end of things:


http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1189482

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1189483

http://rcbsd45.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=1189484


Thats it for now! Enjoy.

[ascotell]

I know I have posted once before about the 18's and rebuilding. On the EMD forum they are speaking about repowering GP9's and GP38-40's. With turbo 710-8's. Creating 2000 hp. I have heard around the 18's might be rebuilt. (HUGE MAYBE) do not quote me. Would it be cost effective to have EMD rebuild the units with the more efficent 710? I know and understand the problems with the frames, and of the lack of traffic. Assuming traffic come back up and the frames are ok this would help with the high fuel prices and the local power.

[RichM]

This is a long explanation that time and space don't allow.

There's a whole need to understand what a turbocharger is, how it works, and why it works best in some applications.

Basically, that's why there are still hundreds of first and second generation non-turbocharged units still in active use. Slow speeds, frequent speed changes, topography, short trains, switching requirements...

There's enough theory and practice to fill several textbooks.

Now in this specific case, you have three very old, very tired frames, pairs of trucks, and engine blocks, in a model originally built without central air systems, owned by a railroad that in its history had prolonged periods where maintenance may have been haphazard, or maybe better stated, performed by organizations outside the railroad proper.

I'd believe going to a 710 block with turbochargers in a GP 7 through 35 frame when I see it for any railroad. And in this case, save your quarters for preservation as museum pieces. They paid their dues, they were workhorses for almost fifty years. Respect the reliability, hours and horsepower they provided, and let their places be taken by rebuilt 38's.

[ascotell]

I understand that they are old and tired. I just saw something new and wanted to see ideas. These ideas are not limited to the GP18's, as for the turbo chargers I do understand how they work as I am very familiar with forced induction. I own a Supercharged car. The Turbos run off of exaust gasses and the motor usually needs to be reved up for them to produce the extra power. As for the NYSW on the Southern Devision I can understand why you would want a non turbo engine to make sure you enough toque to pull the cars.

[ricebrianrice]

1802 is now working the Binghamton Yard

Brian

[Jtgshu]

let their places be taken by rebuilt 38's.

Hahahaha - I had to chuckle - be replaced by locos that are only a handful of years younger than they are!

Its simply amazing how long EMD locos last doing what they were designed to do, day in and day out for half a century or more

[RichM]

True, true, true on the 38's...

But considerably more of them still around and kicking, better standardization of components, etc... and I think the largest standard non-turbo'd prime movers still in common use. That's the only place I was going.

[Otto Vondrak]

The ghost of 1802 from October 2007:

http://flickr.com/photos/ottomatic77/3115466143/

-otto-

[photorailfan]

I just spotted 1802 yesturday and again today at CP5 in Ridgefield going to work. Looks like she's back home.

[kingfish]

1802 on SD very short term account shortage of NS/CSX GP38-2 lease power. Get your pictures by Tuesday 12/23 for NJ action.

Cheers!

Kingfish

[Steve F45]

1802 on SD very short term account shortage of NS/CSX GP38-2 lease power. Get your pictures by Tuesday 12/23 for NJ action.

Cheers!

Kingfish

booooooo, keep her down here for a little while longer. or atleast send the 3040 down here if she's up and running.