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  • Winchester residents vs. PAR & Tighe Trucking

  • Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.
Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

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 #1201722  by jaymac
 
Yet another day and yet another filing: This time it's the Milford-Bennington asking leave to join as amicus, citing its own zoning board restrictions and pehaps trying to gain points with PAR:
http://www.stb.dot.gov/filings/all.nsf/ ... 234559.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 #1202176  by F-line to Dudley via Park
 
GP40MC1118 wrote:http://www.stb.dot.gov/decisions/readin ... enDocument

STB Ruling...

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Cue residents up in arms about the town's legal bills for this misguided folly and demanding that somebody else pay for them in 5, 4, 3. . .


At least their comeuppance came quickly and decisively.
 #1205733  by F-line to Dudley via Park
 
http://www.stb.dot.gov/filings/all.nsf/ ... 234661.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow. Winchester's going full-retard and re-filing to the STB for reconsideration claiming the STB has no jurisdiction over them. This is worth a read for the sheer cajones of demanding to the STB that it nullify itself.

I guess they don't have any problem going for mutually assured destruction at considerable taxpayer expense.
 #1205827  by frrc
 
Backshophoss wrote:Does Winchester want to join Detroit in Bankruptcy?? STB ruled the town had NO case!!
What's next: The US Surpreme Court? The legal fees will be $$$$$$!!!

The town is so wealthy and arrogant they have the money to burn....
 #1206656  by FatNoah
 
The arguments presented by the town's attorney's are downright wrong and the attorneys are intentionally misleading or tragically incompetent.

The attorney's main argument is:
The Board's Decision is fatally flawed for the material error of law of departing
from its precedents without offering a reasoned basis for doing so.
In citing precedents, the attorneys highlighted this phrase in each (one of which was STB Finance Docket #35157):
To qualify for federal preemption under section 10501 (b), the activities must constitute
'transportation' and must be performed by, or under the auspices of, a 'rail carrier'
Either the attorneys didn't bother reading the full decisions or hope no one at the STB will either. Here's what the STB decided in the docket cited above:
We have found in this decision that the Board has jurisdiction over the operations at the
Facility, and, thus, that federal preemption applies to those activities. Consequently, local zoning
and other requirements that could interfere with or prevent the transloading activities are
preempted. We note, however, that, notwithstanding the finding that federal preemption applies
here, historic police powers are retained and state and local government entities can take
appropriate action to protect public health and safety so long as their actions do not serve to
regulate railroad operations or unreasonably interfere with interstate commerce.
Salient points:
1. Board has jurisdiction
2. Local powers are preserved, except when they serve to regulate railroad operations or interfere with interstate commerce.


So, for those who don't want to read, here's the tl;dr (too long; didn't ready) version:
1. Attorneys cite previous STB decisions and claim STB doesn't follow its precedents
2. Cited precedents are actually consistent with STB ruling in this case.
 #1206744  by Hux
 
frrc wrote:
Backshophoss wrote:Does Winchester want to join Detroit in Bankruptcy?? STB ruled the town had NO case!!
What's next: The US Surpreme Court? The legal fees will be $$$$$$!!!

The town is so wealthy and arrogant they have the money to burn....
Actually, that is not the case at all. While not Detroit, they are not flush with cash.
 #1207012  by newpylong
 
Hux wrote:
frrc wrote:
Backshophoss wrote:Does Winchester want to join Detroit in Bankruptcy?? STB ruled the town had NO case!!
What's next: The US Surpreme Court? The legal fees will be $$$$$$!!!

The town is so wealthy and arrogant they have the money to burn....
Actually, that is not the case at all. While not Detroit, they are not flush with cash.
Are you referring to the Town itself or the residential demographics? The median income for a family in Winchester is over $200,000 which puts it at one of the wealthiest towns in the state. I do think the town could be run poorly and routinely faces budget deficits or shortfalls. I think they had a levy override and used free cash to make up last year's shortfall. That's pretty bad...

To keep this RR related, service to Tighe has been steady.