• Hoosac Tunnel Discussion & News

  • Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.
Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

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  by BandA
 
Perhaps the acid rain over many years. Probably also disintegrates cement and tunnel roof & rock. So not much limestone in the rock!
  by jaymac
 
There was a form of acid rain inside the Hoosac before electrification and again before railroads going to ULSD in 2012 -- wet sulfurous exhaust being blasted out of stacks and onto the roof.
  by gokeefe
 
My thoughts as well ...
  by GU1001
 
I just got a heads up that Rails & Ports is reporting a landslide at the west portal. At least 8” of debris including mud & stone over the rail. At this point, traffic delayed til late tonight.

Here’s a link to the R&P home page. Story is about halfway down on the right...https://railsandports.com/
  by MEC407
 
At 8:45 AM today, a landslide was discovered outside the west portal of the Hoosac Tunnel. There was eight inches of stone and mud over the rail head.

Water was also flowing from the same brook that was rerouted as part of the tunnel repairs earlier this year.

Part of a retaining wall is also involved.

Impacted trains:

16R - planned for 9pm tonight
RJED - tied down at Hoosick Jct
EDRJ - originally planned for 1pm at East Deerfield; pushed back to 5pm
23K planned for 2pm; pushed back to 6pm
22K Not running today on PAS
  by Cosmo
 
Oh lordy, here we go again.... !!
  by newpylong
 
Big difference this time.
  by Cosmo
 
True, this time it's outside the tunnel,
Last edited by MEC407 on Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:02 am, edited 1 time in total. Reason: unnecessary quoting
  by roberttosh
 
No matter how minor this incident is, I’m sure the NS can’t be very happy about it.
  by NHV 669
 
A post to one of the PAR pages an hour ago indicates that the area is clear and rail traffic has resumed, perhaps we'll see a train sighting soon to confirm.
  by CN9634
 
Love the R&P Drama here.... literally crews were setback a few hours and things are moving again. Talk about blown out of proportion!
  by newpylong
 
roberttosh wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:05 pm No matter how minor this incident is, I’m sure the NS can’t be very happy about it.
They've had 11 years to be unhappy with all sorts of things (on PAS) and largely haven't done anything about it.
  by taracer
 
Really should put an end to any rumors that the B&M would be the new route for CSX into New England. The Castleton Bridge is fine, still double track and good for 30 mph.
  by Backshophoss
 
The ex-B&M mainline will wind up in NS as part of the PAR sale to CSX,NS will likely do the undercutting needed to make the tunnel clear Domestic 53 foot double stack cars.
  by taracer
 
I don't know, maybe I guess. Thing is they had years to make a move, and did nothing. I'm not sure that NS, in their stage of PSR, is willing to make that investment now. I can see them selling their stake and retreating to Mohawk Yard, and having a shortline feed them some traffic from Ayer.

I think CSX just totally kicked them out of New England, or at best made them a minor player.
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