• "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

  • Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.
Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

Moderator: MEC407

  by gokeefe
 
Their plants elsewhere appear to have similar demand for rail as other saw/board mills.
  by CN9634
 
It's all going by truck-- no rail potential. That isn't to say there will never be any, but I know who these guys are and no plan to ship by rail. They like having access to old mill infrastructure however
  by roberttosh
 
Speaking of new customers, how much rail business is ND Paper doing up in Old Town?
  by newpylong
 
Long term likely will depend on how much the technology is accepted here in the US. As I understand it, it's still bigger in Europe and people are just getting into it here. If things progress, then they may have a need for more inbound lumber volume, and outbound timber loads. I would agree, for a burgeoning business, hard to see rail to start.
  by gokeefe
 
Whatever is going through Winthrop tonight must have a K5LA on it ... It sounded so much like the Downeaster that I actually thought it was the real thing and started wondering for a moment which train it was. Then of course I recalled that this was impossible ...
  by Rockingham Racer
 
Some CSX engines have K5LA horns. Do they ever get up that far north?
  by MEC407
 
Yes, they have to go through Winthrop to get to Waterville. (By "CSX engines" I assume you mean the ex-CSX engines now owned by PAR)
  by Rockingham Racer
 
No, actually I meant CSX engines that CSX owns, but the ones you mention certainly could be candidates for a K5LA, I imagine.
  by MEC407
 
Absolutely. Several of PAR's ex-CSX C40s and B40s have K5LA horns. That's almost certainly what gokeefe heard. :)
  by 690
 
Several of the GP40s have acquired K5LAs too, 321, 327, 345 and 353 off the top of my head.
  by roberttosh
 
Is Pan Am running between Old town and Keag these days? I thought I heard something about the line being shut down while they make 286K upgrades?
  by KSmitty
 
It's mothballed and afaik none of the work that was reportedly to be done had been done.
  by gokeefe
 
Wow. Interesting how quickly things have been shifting around ...
  by KSmitty
 
For the record, they aren't even running the occasional extra up to Perma Treat this time. They have GMTX 205 sub-leased from EMRY and taxi a crew (NM-1?) up to switch. They send everything up CMQ and Irving drops the spent tie cars and chocolate chip gons at Keag.

They did run down and back up once I believe as 205 made an appearance at NMJ. Might have had to do with CM&Q not accepting some of the beat to hell ex-D&H 2 bay MofW hoppers. Or maybe they needed to 92 day the 205, not sure if it went to Waterville or not...

All may be a moot point: if CM&Q is sold and Irving is the buyer it's hard to believe daily trains will ever run to 'Keag by way of Old Town again.
  by backroadrails
 
KSmitty wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:55 pm For the record, they aren't even running the occasional extra up to Perma Treat this time. They have GMTX 205 sub-leased from EMRY and taxi a crew (NM-1?) up to switch. They send everything up CMQ and Irving drops the spent tie cars and chocolate chip gons at Keag.

They did run down and back up once I believe as 205 made an appearance at NMJ. Might have had to do with CM&Q not accepting some of the beat to hell ex-D&H 2 bay MofW hoppers. Or maybe they needed to 92 day the 205, not sure if it went to Waterville or not...

All may be a moot point: if CM&Q is sold and Irving is the buyer it's hard to believe daily trains will ever run to 'Keag by way of Old Town again.
As far as I know no Pan Am crew goes to the Keag anymore. I believe a crew based in Mattawamkeag, which normally handles MOW trains, switches the chipper. The 205 was sent west with 30 or so tie cars which were too old to interchange with EMRY and then CMQ. The 205 needed a 92 day if I recall so it was sent to Waterville, and was sent back and was the power for OT-1 (there is a video on Branchline Geep Productions on YouTube). They should be making another trip east soon, the exPTM rail crane is supposedly being brought back from Enfield (I believe it is sitting on the spur to the stud mill which has been recently reconnected and the spur cleared of brush.
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