• CSX Readville, MA

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Discussion of the operations of CSX Transportation, from 1980 to the present. Official site can be found here: CSXT.COM.

Moderator: MBTA F40PH-2C 1050

  by CSX Conductor
 
The former Stop & Shop building was originally re-opened by a business man who used to work for Tighe Warehouse in Mansfield and he's grown his business significantly since he first moved in. He has gotten wine in as well as roofing shingles in by rail and also a different type of shingle product in by truck and out by rail.

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  by MBTA1016
 
CSX Conductor wrote:Matt, as Mary said to Ted in Something About Mary, "I'm just f#cking with ya"! :P

During the winter Home Depot and many other lumber companies tend to slow down a bit due to less construction in the winter. This has made an impact, but it will pick up in a month or two. Bird/Certainteed in East Walpole sometimes orders alot of cars at once from their supplier and other times they order a few at a time.....depending on costs of product, either way they can only unload 3 cars a day. The Boston Globe's warehouse was pretty well stocked last week because they received about 20+ cars earlier in the week. US Gypsum usually gets 3 or 4 cars into the yard at a time but has them all unloaded the same day. General Motors' parts warehouse at Rte128 moved out a few months ago which adds to the decrease in cars as well. Also the Boston Railway Terminal was served legal papers for eviction process AGAIN last week and even though he has cars en-route they will not be delivered. They have been re-routed to the P&W where he will have to unload them at one of his locations in Providence.

Even when the yard seems deserted sometimes there is still a steady flow, just not noticeable because the customers are ordering just enough to fill their sidings as opposed to ordering too many cars and paying for them to be held in the yard.

Bird/certainteed dosent get cars anymore at least I don't think they do because I heard somewhere that the bridge over dean st north of the plant is going to get taken down besides they get truck traffic every weekday I know this because I live near the plant

Also, last week someone supposedly signed a leas for the old Stop & Shop warehouse and hopefully he will do rail, which would be more business. :-)
  by theseaandalifesaver
 
What's the Readville yard up to these days? I stopped by yo take a look today and it looks very empty. Where do trains from Readville usually come/go? Mostly locals? This might be the only yard left in Boston.
  by highwayman
 
I live nearby, and can give you a partial answer. The main CSX train out of readville seems to be B731. It makes a daily round trip to Framingham and back, usually out of Readville about 9 or 10 AM, arriving back in Readville about 4:30 or 5 PM. I think this train is readville's connection to the outside world. The car count on this train varies day to day, Mondays seem to be the heaviest. Other locals include B710 that serves the 128 industrial park, and maybe a lumberyard on the Stoughton branch. B710 also makes an occasional trip to a customer on the Walpole industrial track in Norwood. In the evening, B732 heads out onto the Franklin branch, primarily to serve Foxboro Terminals on the Framingham secondary line. I think there might be one more local at night to serve cold storage warehouses near South bay yards, but I'm not certain. There may be others I don't know about, others out there may know better than me. I hope that helps.
  by Narrowgauger
 
Highwayman is right. However I too live nearby and have to say since Beacon park closed Readville has seen an increase in cars. Used to be only 10-20 cars but now its routinely 50-60. There is a local into Boston as well as the ones mentioned. As a matter of fact the 3 GP 40-2s in the yard has had a 4th unit added. This past Sat was very unusual as there was a train out on the road. I went by and found only 1 unit there.
Ted
  by BandA
 
They should have left a small yard at Beacon Park.
  by QB 52.32
 
There's no reason to have left anything at Beacon Park and Readville isn't doing anything new or different since the Park closed. Framingham has taken on what relatively little work remains once the intermodal, transloading and Romar moved west.
  by theseaandalifesaver
 
Where exactly into Boston do trains from Readville go? Up the NEC or through Dorcester? What's the final destination?

Also, what's the route they use to Framingham?
  by highwayman
 
Any freight from readville to Boston would use the dorchester branch. To Framingham, the route is the Franklin branch to Walpole, then north on the Framingham secondary, Walpole to Framingham.
  by F-line to Dudley via Park
 
theseaandalifesaver wrote:Where exactly into Boston do trains from Readville go? Up the NEC or through Dorcester? What's the final destination?

Also, what's the route they use to Framingham?
highwayman wrote:Any freight from readville to Boston would use the dorchester branch. To Framingham, the route is the Franklin branch to Walpole, then north on the Framingham secondary, Walpole to Framingham.
Moves up the Dorchester Branch also only happen at night after commuter rail has stopped, since it requires going through otherwise busy Southampton Yard. The only customers CSX currently serves inbound of Readville are Boston Food Market at Widett Circle (one of the trucking warehouses next to the commuter rail maintenance facility), and the Boston Globe in Dorchester to deliver giant rolls of newsprint. BFM is as-needed...usually not more than once a week. The Globe is getting extremely rare as they outsource more printing to the suburbs, and those deliveries will stop altogether when they move out of Globe HQ to downtown with all printing relocated to the 'burbs.

Should container traffic start at Marine Terminal down Track 61, it'll be the same basic overnight job just expanded to nightly instead of on-demand.
  by MBTA F40PH-2C 1050
 
F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:
theseaandalifesaver wrote:Where exactly into Boston do trains from Readville go? Up the NEC or through Dorcester? What's the final destination?

Also, what's the route they use to Framingham?
highwayman wrote:Any freight from readville to Boston would use the dorchester branch. To Framingham, the route is the Franklin branch to Walpole, then north on the Framingham secondary, Walpole to Framingham.
Moves up the Dorchester Branch also only happen at night after commuter rail has stopped, since it requires going through otherwise busy Southampton Yard. The only customers CSX currently serves inbound of Readville are Boston Food Market at Widett Circle (one of the trucking warehouses next to the commuter rail maintenance facility), and the Boston Globe in Dorchester to deliver giant rolls of newsprint. BFM is as-needed...usually not more than once a week. The Globe is getting extremely rare as they outsource more printing to the suburbs, and those deliveries will stop altogether when they move out of Globe HQ to downtown with all printing relocated to the 'burbs.

Should container traffic start at Marine Terminal down Track 61, it'll be the same basic overnight job just expanded to nightly instead of on-demand.
The Boston Globe hasn't gotten a box car delivery in almost 2 years. The Cold Storage trk is where the frozen box cars are stored for offloading/loading. Just last week there were 3 cars there, along with a few days of single cars, usually the ADMN frozen storage cars...but yes, they are as needed
  by MBTA F40PH-2C 1050
 
The Boston Globe switch has had its frog and switch points removed in the last few days...Nothing official in our Bulletin Order about it being OOS yet...say so long to the Boston Globe siding!
  by CSX Conductor
 
F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:Moves up the Dorchester Branch also only happen at night after commuter rail has stopped, since it requires going through otherwise busy Southampton Yard.
Should container traffic start at Marine Terminal down Track 61, it'll be the same basic overnight job just expanded to nightly instead of on-demand.
First off, when CSXT goes from Readville to The Boston Globe, they DO NOT go through Southampton Street Yard. The normal move is Dorchester Branch to clear Broad Interlocking and then shove west to the Middleboro Main at Cabot and south to The Globe. After switching the Globe there are 3 options for returning to Readville.

1) Pull into "The New Yard" at Fly Interlocking and go down one track, cut the engine away and run around the cars, then pull out onto the Middleboro Main at Fly and shove back to clear Broad and go west via the Dorchester Branch
2) Go from Globe to clear Broad and the shove around the loop and clear South Bay interlocking by the American Cold Storage building. The head west on the Dorchester Branch.

3)Leave The Globe and head north to Broad to the Wye Connector and take the Corridor back to Transfer and shove back into "1 Yard" at Readville.



In regards to container traffic at the terminal, I doubt it will ever happen and there's no long a direct connection between the Dorchester Branch and the lead to 1st Street.
  by F-line to Dudley via Park
 
CSX Conductor wrote:In regards to container traffic at the terminal, I doubt it will ever happen and there's no long a direct connection between the Dorchester Branch and the lead to 1st Street.
It is going to happen. Massport applied for $84M worth of TIGER grants for the Southie ports to build the Conley Haul Road, do the Marine Terminal north expansion, spur Track 61 near Drydock Ave. to the north expansion and do whatever demolition work gets it there, and modify the interlockings for a straight shot off the Dorchester Branch. They only got a portion of the funding in the last round of awards, so Conley Haul Rd. is the first fully-funded and shovel-ready project in the bunch. That construction starts next year with land prep already underway tied to the Conley expansion. They're trying again for the Track 61 grants by rolling in that Convention Center DMU shuttle to sweeten the pot and open up alternative funding sources. If the DMU plan happens, the Marine Terminal rail access happens in a single construction package. There is some track schematic in one of the documents itemizing what switches and structures in Southampton would be modified, but I can't locate them today on Google.


Now...when they have the actual customers to serve at the terminal and how successful Massport and the BRA are going to be at attracting said customers is anyone's guess. That's on their shoulders entirely. But the actual track configuration is set, and if it should get scrubbed by changing priorities or other complications the BCEC passenger dinky gets scrubbed along with it.