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Introducing CN Tunnel Motors

Discussion relating to the Canadian National, past and present. Also includes discussion of Illinois Central and Grand Trunk Western and other subsidiary roads (including Bessemer & Lake Erie and the Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range Railway). Official site: WWW.CN.CA

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Introducing CN Tunnel Motors

 #194091  by EJ&ESDM809
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=127321. Here is CN SD45T-3 #401, a ex-DM&IR unit. It may be a first, but I am completely against seeing any more DM&IR or B&LE engines being repainted. CN really needs a heritage fleet. Hopefully they won't do any more for a while. I wonder if CN will repaint some WC SD45s, I hope not.

 #194121  by Amtrak31
 
A heritage fleet would be real nice. I'd say it's possible.

 #202560  by ic9623
 
I was able to get a pic of this guy at Tolono,IL 12/03/05. I would of loved to get a shot of it before it got painted.

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 #203886  by emd_SD_60
 
BlackDog wrote: I doubt it. The CN is running the wheels off those 45's and then junking them. Get your pics now fellas, they ain't going to last much longer.
If I am not mistaken, do all of those SD45's still have their V-20's in them? Another reason there also, bigger engine equals more fuel consumption. And that is not that great with the current price of diesel.

Also are the former Algoma Central SD40-2's (#'s 6001-6006) in any great danger as well? I wouldn't think so. :wink:

 #204553  by BlackDog
 
The WC SD45's are true 45's with the V-20. The DMIR Tunnel motors are re-powered with V-16's I just had the DMIR 400 last night fresh from Centralia. Flashed over 2 traction motors, made for a long night.

As for the Algoma Central units, I don't think they are in danger yet.

 #204641  by trainiac
 
If I am not mistaken, do all of those SD45's still have their V-20's in them? Another reason there also, bigger engine equals more fuel consumption. And that is not that great with the current price of diesel.
Relative to the horsepower produced, the 20 cylinder 645 actually consumes slightly less fuel than the 16-cylinder version--and its overall consumption is still less than the 4300-hp 710 in CN's many SD75's. So, retiring them based solely on fuel consumption wouldn't actually be justified. From what I can see, the most likely reason that CN would be retiring the 45's would be their age--CN has precious few pre-Dash-2 units in road service and even many of their GP40-2W's have been retired. The recent purchase of a slew of SD70M-2's and ES44DC's--precisely to replace older power--does not bode well for the SD45's.
Also are the former Algoma Central SD40-2's (#'s 6001-6006) in any great danger as well? I wouldn't think so.
I don't think so either. CN is a big fan of the SD40-2--It's one of the most numerous types on the roster, and CN purchased more SD40-2's second hand after building a large fleet of SD40-2W's purchased new. Very few (either SD40-2 or SD40-2W) have been retired--those that have were mainly due to wrecks.

CN 402

 #208194  by EJ&ESDM809
 
Bad news, CN has repainted DM&IR 402 into CN colors. Enjoy DM&IR power while you can as it seems to be coming to a end. CN also removed half of Proctor Yard's tracks and the second track on Proctor hill. All CN cares about is money and profits. Also, CN's ES44DCs are beginning to arrive. Lets hope they don't replace the DM&IR SD38-2s, WC SD45s, or any GTW or DWP SD40s.

They did what?

 #208204  by Komachi
 
Komachi, your friendly, neighborhood moderator, did yet another "spit take" upon EJ&ESDM809's news of...

"CN also removed half of Proctor Yard's tracks and the second track on Proctor hill."


SAY WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATT?!?!?


Iron Ore (well, technically, taconite now) hauling is just as Minnesotan as hockey, tundra wastelands, Common Loons, Pink Lady Slippers, wild rice, ice fishing, Garrison Keiller's "A Prairie Home Companion" and electing professional wrestlers as governors! Considering Minnesota supplies the United States with 2/3rds of it's iron ore/taconite, they'd be wise to hold onto that aspect of things and not do too much tinkering with it ("streamlining" operations is fine, obliterating it would not be wise).

Otherwise we'd have to retaliate by inviting the powers that be to a pot-luck and serve Lutefisk*.


* For those who weren't "bleesed" enough to be born of Norwegian ancestory or are from the Gopher State, Lutefisk ("Lye Fish") is cod that is preserved, in a dried state with Lye to keep it from rotting. The fish is prepared three days in advance by muliple soakings in water to leech the lye out of the fish, which is then baked or boiled. The end result being a soft, gellitan (Jell-O) like, fish flavored substance.

And, no, dispite being nearly 100% Norwegian-American, I do NOT eat the stuff.

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 #208893  by emd_SD_60
 
emd_SD_60 wrote:Also are the former Algoma Central SD40-2's (#'s 6001-6006) in any great danger as well? I wouldn't think so. :wink:
I forgot to mention the 6001 is a SD40 from 1971, and 6002-6006 are SD40-2's from 1973. I'd say their safe. Same with the ex-MP SD40-2's GT has. But what is with a few of the 1969 and 1970 SD40's being retired? Surely they could be rebuilt as SD40-3's, with upgraded electrics and dynamics?

 #211741  by emd_SD_60
 
So far I have been getting pics of the SD45's... enjoy the pics!

http://emd_sd_60.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=266568

http://emd_sd_60.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=274507

http://emd_sd_60.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=283902

http://emd_sd_60.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=284000

http://emd_sd_60.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=284004

 #230804  by EJ&ESDM809
 
The good thing is no SD38-2s have gotten repainted yet. I did see DM&IR 209 at Homewood last summer. Very nice looking engine. http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=121104
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=127259
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