mtuandrew wrote:Sounds like a good idea to me. However, based on anecdotal evidence, at least on the Lakeshore that seems unlikely to be the case except in the middle of the night when people are sleeping. Regardless the point is still very valid, both the diner and the table car would probably spend 40%-50% of the trip empty. I would further suggest that as opposed to giving something away they could simply offer "service at your seat" for a small extra charge. Not sure if this would work or not either.gokeefe wrote:Kind of makes me wonder if the real answer here is more sleepers and some table cars. That might a lot of sense due to the simple design increased capacity and the ability to leverage existing personnel and assets in the galley of the diner. It does two things at once to improve economics it spreads diner personnel thinner, increases sales and increases volume through the kitchen thus spreading out that overhead. Volume might also help greatly in lowering food costs while allowing Amtrak to increase their margins (or quite frankly just decrease their losses) by maintaining the same prices. That makes a lot more sense to me than the multilevel proposal.I like the idea of increasing seating with the same cooking facilities. However, in lieu of a table car, how about offering a slight discount (or a free beverage or dessert for sleeping car passengers) for takeout service? You get the same benefits as a table car without having to haul an extra (often empty) car, since everyone already has a seat and a table.