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Discussion related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp.

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  by STrRedWolf
 
R36 Combine Coach wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:37 pm
Gilbert B Norman wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:39 am But back on the rails, one must wonder; couldn't the entire V-II order just be some kind of "trap" to set Amtrak up for "some kind of investigation" during Trump's second term?
The delays date back to 2013-2015. After the 70 baggage cars were delivered and accepted in 2015, the assembly line in Elmira seemed to have slowed down. The shells for the diners and some early sleepers were actually built in 2012-2013, but not assembled completed until long afterward (2018 for the diners). The baggage cars were the only portion of the fleet delivered on time.


And who would do such investigation, OIG or DOJ?
DOJ, because Barr.
  by bostontrainguy
 
The OIG at the Postal Service suggested that it could save millions by shipping some of the mail by rail. Maybe the two OIGs could get together and try something to help both. Makes too much sense?
  by Backshophoss
 
Might be useful for bulk mailed adverts that are not time sensitive,A good chunk moves as Intermodal loads done by the postal contract Trucking Co's.
  by Tadman
 
STrRedWolf wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:06 am
R36 Combine Coach wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:37 pm And who would do such investigation, OIG or DOJ?
DOJ, because Barr.
I don't see that. He has much bigger fish to fry and this is not normally the material the AG would take on.
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
Looking at the Amtrak Express service guide (1/13 edition), only some stations (mostly major cities) could handle heavy loads including pallets up to 500 lb (HEX or heavy express): BOS, PVD, NWK, PHL, BAL, WAS, RVR, RGH, CLB, JAX, ORL, TPA, ATL CLT, GRO, BHM, NOL, ALB, BUF, PGH, CHI, MKE, OMA, WIN, MSP, DEN, SEA, PDX, SPK, OKJ, LAX.

But there were some commercial shippers with open credit accounts regularly delivering heavy loads on trains up to recently. The limited service for HEX really only makes this useful between major cities. It might be more useful for smaller LD communities. When Greyhound discontinued service in Western Canada, some local businesses in smaller communities had issues, as they relied on Greyhound's daily schedule for timely deliveries that
were unmatched by other carriers.
Backshophoss wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:33 pm Might be useful for bulk mailed adverts that are not time sensitive, A good chunk moves as Intermodal loads done by the postal contract Trucking Co's.
That's exactly what the MHCs carried in the 1990s: mostly carload bulk USPS (second and third class, such
as periodicals and commercial mailings). Also 12/13 carried first class/overnight mail between New York and
New England.
  by urr304
 
IIRC, the MHC got the freight railroads riled up. Back to what was earlier stated, what are we subsidizing: passengers or packages?

Anyway, I was just checking and a lot of Amtrak services do not have checked baggage, so how would they handle package express? In fact, currently no baggage service between NY-Boston without the overnight train running, nothing between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh directly [NCB on Pennsylvanian]. Lots of other pairs of cities without baggage service, so where would the packages go?
  by Arborwayfan
 
Amtrak Express (the individual package kind, not the mail or the big lcl shipments in the mail and express initiative days) was only ever handled between staffed stations that hosted trains with baggage cars and handled checked baggage. And not even all of those stations handle express, IIRC.
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
Arborwayfan wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:21 pm Amtrak Express was only ever handled between staffed stations that hosted trains with baggage
cars and handled checked baggage. And not even all of those stations handle express, IIRC.
And even so certain trains could not handle certain loads: the coach-baggage Superliners on the Portland branch of the Builder (and Texas Eagle until 2015) cannot handle palletized freight or human remains. Local stations on the Surfliner and San Joaquin cannot either, with the Caltrans fleet only including coach-baggage cars or NPCUs.