• Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

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Discussion related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp.

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  by photobug56
 
So test train 2 has made it down to DC. That sounds good. Makes me wonder how it rode on those nasty tracks north of DC. When I rode Acela last September NYC to DC and back with my wife, it felt like we were driving too fast on some main streets in my neighborhood.
  by Tadman
 
photobug56 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:37 pm What's Ivy City?
All the yards in this link: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9151858 ... a=!3m1!1e3

Traditionally it was the split of B&O to Chicago and PRR to New York. Now it's CSX to Chicago and Amtrak NEC to New York. Since the station opened, the coach yards have been in the crook of that V, along with a wye. Metro also has a yard and shop there. I'm not an expert on DC, perhaps the Metro property was once B&O's passenger yard?
  by mtuandrew
 
NaugyRR wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:31 pm I wonder what made them go with a two-tone Euro-style horn
Not gonna lie, I’d prefer a three-tone American chime if they’re willing to install one. Beyond the euphonics, the fact that it sounds more like a Toyota than a train makes it less safe - customers might well mistake the two at their peril. At least the dreaded mismatch doesn’t look too bad in this little Amtrak-official clip: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBV0pOljCyS ... 0dm6w2j9go
  by Backshophoss
 
Put the 5 chime horns used by the P42's,sounds better than the "sick duck" horn that's currently mounted on the Acela II's
Do it right this time. This is not a M-9 or an Arrow II EMU'sI
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  by photobug56
 
I find myself wondering whether the design team paid any attention at all to appearance or sounds. BTW, I found a youtube of a p42 horns - not bad. Far better than Acella II.
  by Greg Moore
 
I don't want to resurrect the debate itself, but I will note on social media, such as book of faces, Amtrak is doing a great job promoting the testing of the one unit on the NEC. Which I think is great.

And honestly, it appears to be working. It seems to be generating a lot of excitement.
But... definitely a lot of comments on the horn and body shape. It is getting noticed.

That, and certainly lots of people saying "will this come to..." or "will it have sleepers?" So folks definitely want newer, modern trains and overall like this one.
  by Acela150
 
Are we still going on about the horn? Yes, it's not the traditional K5LA. Get over it. Amtrak isn't in the business of pleasing Railfans with the horn of a train. They're in the business of moving people where they need to go.
  by mtuandrew
 
Acela150 wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:28 pm Are we still going on about the horn? Yes, it's not the traditional K5LA. Get over it. Amtrak isn't in the business of pleasing Railfans with the horn of a train. They're in the business of moving people where they need to go.
Understood. That’s why I framed it as a safety issue :P It’s the kind of thing that Amtrak should advertise, like “hey rich travelers, that horn isn’t from a Corolla, it’s actually your brand-new train so don’t step too close to the tracks” :wink:

I do appreciate that Amtrak is putting out press releases, snapshots, and video clips of AX-II though. They seem to have stepped up their social media game recently.
  by Acela150
 
Greg Moore wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:27 pm I don't want to resurrect the debate itself, but I will note on social media, such as book of faces, Amtrak is doing a great job promoting the testing of the one unit on the NEC. Which I think is great.
They are doing a great job at promoting the testing. Much more then when the original Acela's were under test. But things are extremely different now then 20 years ago.
liftedjeep wrote:Last I heard, the set that was in Philadelphia had been taken to D.C. Does anyone know when and where along the NEC the testing will continue?

Ben
Last I knew, it came back to PHL. I haven't been past PHL in a few days to see if it's sitting in PCY.
  by mcgrath618
 
Acela150 wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:31 pm
Greg Moore wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:27 pm I don't want to resurrect the debate itself, but I will note on social media, such as book of faces, Amtrak is doing a great job promoting the testing of the one unit on the NEC. Which I think is great.
They are doing a great job at promoting the testing. Much more then when the original Acela's were under test. But things are extremely different now then 20 years ago.
liftedjeep wrote:Last I heard, the set that was in Philadelphia had been taken to D.C. Does anyone know when and where along the NEC the testing will continue?

Ben
Last I knew, it came back to PHL. I haven't been past PHL in a few days to see if it's sitting in PCY.
It is indeed still in Race St Yard. Hasn't moved very much, but lots of bodies doing inspection work in High Vis Jackets.
  by Jeff Smith
 
Seriously, sweet shot!
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