Surviving C425 roster

[trainspot]

From the old RR.net forum, needs updating!

Original Owner Model Original Number Current Owner Current Number Location State Interim Owners, Numbers Facility Type Status Notes Year Built B/N
EL C-425 2452 Delaware-Lackawanna 2452 NY BCRail 802 R A 10/64 3392-02
EL C-425 2453 Mohawk, Adirondack, & Northern 2453 NY BCRail 803 R A 10/64 3392-03
EL C-425 2454 Mohawk, Adirondack, & Northern 804 NY BCRail 804 R A 10/64 3392-04
EL C-425 2455 Mohawk, Adirondack, & Northern 805 NY BCRail 805 R S 10/64 3392-05
EL C-425 2456 Mohawk, Adirondack, & Northern 806 NY BCRail 806 R A 10/64 3392-06
EL C-425 2461 Delaware-Lackawanna 2461 NY BCRail 811 R A 10/64 3392-11
NYNH&H C-425 2557 LA&L 425 Lakeville NY PC 2457, CR 2457, CR 5086 R A 12/64 3398-08
N&W C-425 1013 New York & Lake Erie 1013 Gowanda NY R A High-nose 01/65 3400-07
PRR C-425 2423 PC 2423, CR 5062, Morrison Knudson 6101, New York & Lake Erie R A 02/65 3403-02
PRR C-425 2431 New York & Lake Erie 5067 Gowanda NY PC 2431, CR 5067 R P 03/65 3403-10
PRR C-425 2439 Lake States Railway 1280 Tawas City MI PC 2439, CR 5073 R A C-425m, 2000 hp, rebuilt GE Hornell 1980 12/65 3433-03
PRR C-425 2442 Lake States Railway 281 Tawas City MI PC 2442, CR 5076 R A C-425m, 2000 hp, rebuilt GE Hornell 1980 12/65 3433-06
PRR C-425 2443 Lake States Railway 181 Tawas City MI PC 2443, CR 5077 R A C-425m, 2000 hp, rebuilt GE Hornell 1980 12/65 3433-07
PRR C-425 2444 Lake States Railway 381 Tawas City MI PC 2444, CR 5078 R A C-425m, 2000 hp, rebuilt GE Hornell 1980 12/65 3433-08
SP&S C-425 312 Delaware-Lackawanna 325 Scranton PA BN 4252, Kyle 4252, IHRC 325, Wabash & Erie 325, Maumee & Western 325 R R 06/65 3423-03
SP&S C-425 320 Seminole Gulf 550 Fort Myers FL BN 4258, Kyle 4258, DMV, A&M, TJL RS, Mass Central 4258, SL 2556, Bay Colony 2501 R A 05/66 3461-01
SP&S C-425 325 Delaware-Lackawanna 327 Scranton PA BN 4263, Kyle 4263, IHRC 327, W&O 327 R P 06/66 3461-06
SP&S C-425 326 Morristown & Erie Whippany NJ BN 4264, Kyle 4264, DMV, A&M, TJL RS, Mass Central 4264 R A 06/66 3461-07
Wabash C-425 582 Navajo Mine RR LOD7 Farmington NM N&W 1000 I A 10/64 3386-01
Wabash C-425 584 Navajo Mine RR LOD8 Farmington NM N&W 1002 I A 10/64 3386-03
Wabash C-425 587 Navajo Mine RR LOD9 Farmington NM N&W 1005 I A 10/64 3386-06

TOTAL 21 BUILT (US/Mex) 91 % EXISTING 23% ROADS REPRESENTED 6/7

[NYC21295]

Group,

Just a quick correction to the total number of C425's built, as there were 90, not 91. I go into detail about this in the C425 section of Withers Publishing Alco's Century Series Volume One - Four-Axle Models, but the quick answer is that N&W 1011 is often counted twice, as it was wrecked and rebuilt.

Stephen McMillan

[thebigham]

SP&S C-425 325 Delaware-Lackawanna 327 Scranton PA BN 4263, Kyle 4263, IHRC 327, W&O 327 R P 06/66 3461-06

This engine has been scrapped by the D-L.

[GN 599]

I see the list says 6/7 roads represented. Who was the 7th?

[trainspot]

I see the list says 6/7 roads represented. Who was the 7th?

CNW, I think.

[GN 599]

Oh yeah

[thebigham]

The following units above have been scrapped:

PRR C-425 2431 New York & Lake Erie 5067 Gowanda NY PC 2431, CR 5067 R P 03/65 3403-10
PRR C-425 2439 Lake States Railway 1280 Tawas City MI PC 2439, CR 5073 R A C-425m, 2000 hp, rebuilt GE Hornell 1980 12/65 3433-03
PRR C-425 2442 Lake States Railway 281 Tawas City MI PC 2442, CR 5076 R A C-425m, 2000 hp, rebuilt GE Hornell 1980 12/65 3433-06
PRR C-425 2443 Lake States Railway 181 Tawas City MI PC 2443, CR 5077 R A C-425m, 2000 hp, rebuilt GE Hornell 1980 12/65 3433-07
PRR C-425 2444 Lake States Railway 381 Tawas City MI PC 2444, CR 5078 R A C-425m, 2000 hp, rebuilt GE Hornell 1980 12/65 3433-08

[Allen Hazen]

Sorry to see what looks like a whole fleet of (modernized) C-425 -- the Lake States Railway units -- get scrapped!

Curiosity question: can you give any details about what GE's rebuilding (at the ex-Erie shops in Hornell?) involved? 2000 hp sounds as if they got 12-251 engines in place of the original 16-251. (This is what some GE-Hornell 2000 hp rebuilds of C-424 units got.) How about the electricals? Did they keep the big GT-598 generators that C-425 had as original equipment, or did they replace them with something smaller?

[tgibson]

Steinbrenner's ALCO, A Centennial Remembrance states that they had 12-251C engines (2000 hp) and GT564 generators.

[thebigham]

Sorry for the confusion.

I guess we had 2 "Surviving C425" threads.

Let's use this one.

[thebigham]

SP&S C-425 325 Delaware-Lackawanna 327 Scranton PA BN 4263, Kyle 4263, IHRC 327, W&O 327 R P 06/66 3461-06

This engine has been scrapped by the D-L.

It wasn't scrapped in 2009. Pics from 2013 here:

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[SALSDP35]

Steinbrenner's ALCO, A Centennial Remembrance states that they had 12-251C engines (2000 hp) and GT564 generators.

Which seems unlikely as changing to the GT564 would have involve a lot of frame modification and would have drove up the cost of the rebuild.