• Scrapped Alcos

  • Discussion of products from the American Locomotive Company. A web site with current Alco 251 information can be found here: Fairbanks-Morse/Alco 251.
Discussion of products from the American Locomotive Company. A web site with current Alco 251 information can be found here: Fairbanks-Morse/Alco 251.

Moderator: Alcoman

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  by Alcoman
 
I thought that both the 401 and RSC-2 were in Museums?

The 321 was a former KB&S unit..Correct?
  by thebigham
 
^Yes, 321 was former KB&S.

JR said:

BJFR is a typo.

It should read BFJR - Brillion & Forest Junction Ry.

Some pics from 2003 are here:

http://www.trainweather.com/090603PJS.html

They have a sharp-looking RS-3.
  by thebigham
 
Also scrapped by GETS Cleveland Apparatus Shop:

#45 S-6
#4? S-6
#?? S-4

The S-6s were ex South Buffalo units.
  by thebigham
 
Lake State is scrapping their 7 Alcos that were for sale:

181 C425M-AC

281 C425M-AC

381 C425M

798 M420

1280 C425M-AC

3500 M420

3504 M420
  by thebigham
 
More bad news from Trainorders and the Alco Yahoo email group:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ALCO ... sage/11264

A post on Trainorders today indicates Michigan Southern's Alcos are going to
scrap. I can't verify but sad if they are.

Currently list of locomotives affected:

#66 S1
#466 RS2
#977 RS3m
#7804 RS3

All are evidently assembled at White Pigeon, MI.

Daniel
  by jjsatorm
 
I believe 466 is the first 1500 HP Alco, and was beat to the 1500 HP threshold by mere weeks by C&G Baldwin 601. 1500 HP was way off for EMD. 466 is a piece of mechanical engineering history, and probably belongs in the Smithsonian as a tribute to diesel engine development-no kidding. I simply cannot believe that the preservation community would overlook this. Has anyone tried to get this engine for a museum????
  by thebigham
 
^It's been for sale since 2008 for $40k.
  by scottychaos
 
thebigham wrote:
Currently list of locomotives affected:

#66 S1
#466 RS2
#977 RS3m
#7804 RS3

All are evidently assembled at White Pigeon, MI.

Daniel
Just for the record, #66 was an Alco S4.
Lehigh Valley Alco S4 #166 - built new for the LV May 1951
b/n 78725
To Precision Engineering (Dealer) ??/1969.
To Steelton & Highspire #66.
Refitted with Blunt style trucks by S&H (making it appear to be an S-2, but it is not).
To South Buffalo #66.
To Michigan Southern #66.
scrapped December 2011, White Pigeon, MI.

Scot
  by thebigham
 
From Joe Ferguson:

The following locos are being cut up this week in La Harpe, IL:

PREX RS3m 203

All had been cannibalized so heavily as to make it uneconomical to move them off
the property, let alone save anything.
  by oibu
 
with scrap prices as high as they've been lately, preserving much of anything has gotten 100x more challenging than it was just a few years ago. This goes for just about anything- if it's made of steel, the chinese want to make widgets out of it. It's incredible when you drive around and look at how much junk that's been forgotten about and left to sit for the last 3 decades has just disappeared in the last 3 years.

Still, incredible that the rebuilt C425s and M420s would be headed to scrap! I guess with the economy nobody is looking for more power, and with the price of scrap so high units getting scrapped now are realizing prices not far short of what a serviceable locomotive might have gone for just a few years ago (and may still go for, since I think the used loco market remains a substantial oversupply/under-demand situation).

Sad.
  by thebigham
 
The four Alcos stored in Colonie are probably going to be scrapped soon for an expanded CP yard project.

Pics of the units from March are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hbowmanpho ... 965345183/

From scottychaos:

Alco RS3 - ex B&M, nee D&H 4082 (1st 4082)
Alco RS3 - Ex Albany Port RR #2 nee D&H 4126.
Alco S2 - Ex Albany Port RR nee D&H 3011.
Alco S1 - Ex LIRR 417.
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