• walthers shinohara turnouts

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Discussion related to everything about model railroading, from layout design and planning, to reviews of related model tools and equipment. Discussion includes O, S, HO, N and Z, as well as narrow gauge topics. Also includes discussion of traditional "toy train" and "collector" topics such as Lionel, American Flyer, Marx, and others. Also includes discussion of outdoor garden railways and live steamers.

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  by epspsy
 
What HO scale switch motors, besides tortises can be used with the shinoharas?
  by epspsy
 
Are there any model railroaders in these forums who use switches/turnouts?
  by RichM
 
You know, with the products you're asking about, you're in a very narrow range of users, and you already specified no Tortoises... so other than manual throws, there might no be any forum members doing anything else.
I'm not advocating for or against Tortoise, I just don't think you have that many electrically controlled options. I'd strongly suggest you buy a couple and make your own decision. There is a small learning curve, but there are enough other users here, and on YouTube that you shouldn't have a serious problem.

Rich
  by CNJ999
 
I would second Rich's reply. I have all Shinohara turnouts on my fairly large layout, mostly being manually operated. However, those few not easily reached for operating by hand are thrown by Tortiose machines whose operation I have found to be flawless. Why seek some lesser brand?

CNJ999
  by Backshophoss
 
The "other" switch machine for under roadbed mounting is/was made by Atlas,it's just an undermount
version of their "snap switch" machine.
In the UK,there's a under mount machine called "Seep" points motor.
Blue Point makes a manual throw thats an under mount,has contacts for power routing,
about the same size of a tortoise machine.
  by glennk419
 
Micromark offers a switch motor called the Switch Tender. It is a simple low current motor / rod assembly with no built in switch contacts : http://www.micromark.com/switch-tender- ... ,8394.html

They also offer the Bluepoint manual controller referenced above which does include a DPDT integrated switch: http://www.micromark.com/blue-point-swi ... ,8535.html
  by RichM
 
Since I keep coming back to Tortoise, I'll re-ask the original question... anyone out there really using any of these other options?

I'm about to install about 24 Tortoises on Peco code 83 turnouts (they're already purchased) but I'd consider alternatives for anything else I install, if anyone has had good experiences... I have 5-6 older generation Atlas underside mount machines unused from a previous adventure, still in the packaging.

Rich
  by Railjunkie
 
My friends and I have tried the Atlas under table machines with varying success. In general I would stay away from them
  by JamesRR
 
The only turnout machines I'd recommend for Shinohara's are Tortoise. Period. I've tried others, they don't have the torque to throw the Shinoharas. Forget Atlas. They do not have the power to throw the Tortoises - or if they do, they won't stay held. Tortoises are "constant power" switch machines. When powered, they are always 'pushing' in the thrown direction, keeping the turnout points tightly locked.
  by peanut1
 
I just got two shinohara switches in from EBay and I am going to need to motor one up as well so this info really helps me as well. I am in the process of converting my entire layout to baseless track as base track isn't working for me.