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This forum will be for issues that don't belong specifically to one NYC area transit agency, but several. For instance, intra-MTA proposals or MTA-wide issues, which may involve both Metro-North Railroad (MNRR) and the Long Island Railroad (LIRR). Other intra-agency examples: through running such as the now discontinued MNRR-NJT Meadowlands special. Topics which only concern one operating agency should remain in their respective forums.

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  by Jeff Smith
 
Are they getting ready to bid? Found this just now.

3 Firms May Bid On New Hell Gate Commuter Line
NEW YORK — A list of firms who can handle the project to build a new commuter line linking Connecticut and Westchester County with western Manhattan was released Wednesday morning by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority. The Metro-North Penn Access Project will bring New Haven Line service into Penn Station by 2024.
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The MTA anticipates up to 50,000 customer trips will be made per day on the new route, including up to 20,000 that start or end at four new stations in the Bronx. Penn Station Access is expected to draw new riders and generate major time savings for Metro-North customers.
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The MTA is using the innovative "design-build" process in which a single firm or consortium is responsible for both the design and construction of a project. Design-build has been used successfully in recent projects such as the new Mario M. Cuomo Bridge and the LIRR Expansion Project, MTA officials said.
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Halmar International, LLC/Railworks, JV (Ove Arup & Partners P.C., Lead Designer)
Skanska ECCO III Penn Station Connectors, JV (AECOM USA, Inc., Lead Designer)
Tutor Perini/O&G, JV (Parsons Transportation Group of New York, Inc., Lead Designer)
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  by MNCRR9000
 
Looks like the Penn Station Access and the Grand Central Trainshed will be scrapped without Federal bailout money

Penn Station Access
Grand Central Terminal Trainshed
As the coronavirus pandemic rages on throughout the U.S., the four months of disruption can be felt by all sorts of businesses and agencies — one of which is a lifeline for millions of commuters in and around New York City.

The MTA said it can't afford to wait much longer for a federal bailout. The area's mass transit system is set to run out of emergency funding in August, and still faces a $9 billion deficit. MTA Chairman Pat Foye said that "without action by the senate, we don't have a path forward without devastating cuts."

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/traffic/tran ... oQCzUDusms
  by Pensyfan19
 
Here is the complete list of projects to be axed if the MTA does not get funding... :(
  • Metro-North Penn Station access
  • Phase II of the Second Avenue subway
  • Penn Station 33rd Street Corridor
  • Station renewals and repairs at six stations on the 7 line, and four on the J/Z lines
    Modernizing and upgrading signals on LIRR from Babylon to Patchogue, replacing two LIRR bridges, and a new LIRR station at Elmont
  • Purchasing around 650 new buses, including 23 express and 75 electric units
  • ADA accessibility at a more than 30 stations, including: Livonia Avenue, Grand Street and Lorimer Street (L train); 149 Street-Grand Concourse and Wakefield-241st Street (2, 4, 5 lines); 14th Street and Sixth-Seventh Avenues Complex (1, 2, 3, F, M, L lines); Tremont Avenue (B, D); Brook Avenue, East 149 Street, 68th Street-Hunter College and Westchester Square-East Tremont Avenue (6); Broadway and Queensboro Plaza (N, W); 181st Street, Beach 67th Street, Court Square-23rd Street (A, E); Steinway Street and Woodhaven Boulevard (M, R); Classon Avenue, Metropolitan Avenue, 7th Avenue and Court Square (G)
  • Elevator and escalator improvements at 22 subway stations
  • Grand Central Terminal trainshed

Also, is there a deadline for when the MTA must have funding by???
  by STrRedWolf
 
Pensyfan19 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:10 pm Here is the complete list of projects to be axed if the MTA does not get funding... :(
  • Metro-North Penn Station access
  • Phase II of the Second Avenue subway
  • Penn Station 33rd Street Corridor
  • Station renewals and repairs at six stations on the 7 line, and four on the J/Z lines
    Modernizing and upgrading signals on LIRR from Babylon to Patchogue, replacing two LIRR bridges, and a new LIRR station at Elmont
  • Purchasing around 650 new buses, including 23 express and 75 electric units
  • ADA accessibility at a more than 30 stations, including: Livonia Avenue, Grand Street and Lorimer Street (L train); 149 Street-Grand Concourse and Wakefield-241st Street (2, 4, 5 lines); 14th Street and Sixth-Seventh Avenues Complex (1, 2, 3, F, M, L lines); Tremont Avenue (B, D); Brook Avenue, East 149 Street, 68th Street-Hunter College and Westchester Square-East Tremont Avenue (6); Broadway and Queensboro Plaza (N, W); 181st Street, Beach 67th Street, Court Square-23rd Street (A, E); Steinway Street and Woodhaven Boulevard (M, R); Classon Avenue, Metropolitan Avenue, 7th Avenue and Court Square (G)
  • Elevator and escalator improvements at 22 subway stations
  • Grand Central Terminal trainshed

Also, is there a deadline for when the MTA must have funding by???
I keep hearing October 1st being floated around the rumor mill. Can't remember where I heard it from.
  by Riverduckexpress
 
STrRedWolf wrote:
Pensyfan19 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:10 pm Also, is there a deadline for when the MTA must have funding by???
I keep hearing October 1st being floated around the rumor mill. Can't remember where I heard it from.
The MTA is required under NY State law to submit a capital program October 1st before the start of each five-year period. I presume that's what you're thinking of?
(c) on or before October first, nineteen hundred ninety-nine and every fifth year thereafter, the authority shall submit to the metropolitan transportation authority capital program review board two capital program plans for the five-year period commencing January first of the following year.
(I should note that the capital program review board is a separate entity from the MTA board - the review board provides the final approval for each capital program and (ostensibly) oversight and is staffed by proxies of the New York City and state government leaders. However, the "board" is obscure and opaque, doesn't "meet" in public, and is basically just a way for the major politicians to exert their influence over the capital program, by holding power to veto it).

And to my knowledge, there is no deadline by which the MTA needs to have all the billions for each capital program lined up. The MTA and state always play fast and loose with funding - for the 2015-2019 capital program, for example, the Cuomo administration pledged $8.3 billion, but a state budget declared that ~$7 billion of those state funds would only be provided after the MTA exhausted its own financial resources - which is incredibly vague and seemingly opens up the MTA to take on even more debt than initially expected. AFAIK, the state has yet to provide the $7 billion.

To continue on a tangent - traditionally, the MTA has released 20-year capital needs assessments every five years, broadly covering their wish lists for the next 20 years, which they use to use to help develop each five-year capital program. For example, the 2015-2034 needs assessment includes proposals to expand LIRR electrification in Suffolk County and extend the Harlem Line's third track to North White Plains. Interestingly, the MTA never released one for the 2020-2039 period - though MTA leadership claimed last year that it was in development. Note that the 20-year assessments are non-binding and just for informational purposes. In the past, they actually were not required under state law. A law passed last year will require the MTA to release them every 5 years starting in 2023, however, which almost seems appropriate given the authority never released the most recent one.
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