Alco roster

[chnaus]

Scot, are you or others interested in a list of Alcos the LV
had in 1960 ?? Want the other locos too ??

[scottychaos]

sure!
a 1960 roster would be interesting.
right at the end of the 1st generation diesel era but before the start of the 2nd.
sounds good!
Scot

[chnaus]

Company records of Jan,1,1960
Alcos on the roster of locomotives

105 ----------DS-2 -------600hp
116-117 ----DS-3 -------660
150-167 ----DS-6 (18) -1000
210-214 ----DRS-1 (4) -1500
217-218 ----DRS-1 -----""
215-216 ----DRS-2 -----1600
530-549 ----DF-3 (20) -1500
580-588 ----DF-5 (9) ---1600
590 ----------DF-5--------""
592 ----------DF-5 -------""
594 ----------DF-5 -------""
601-614 ----DP-1 -------2000

[GOLDEN-ARM]

THANKS

[bsoplinger]

Company records of Jan,1,1960
Alcos on the roster of locomotives

105 ----------DS-2 -------600hp
116-117 ----DS-3 -------660
150-167 ----DS-6 (18) -1000
210-214 ----DRS-1 (4) -1500
...

I found this while searching for general information on the diesel roster. Is there any source for this info so that when I paint and detail my LVRR locos I can put those tiny classification markings on my locos?

Thanks in advance to all
Brian

[GRSJr]

Brian,

The classification letters are documented in the Railway and Locomotive Historical Society, Bulletin No. 126, April 1972.

This document shows both the original and the newer classification for all the diesels then extant.

The latest classification occured later than this pub.

I have the "DS" classes listed for all locos as well as the "ASM" etc. classification for those that were alive when this reclassification took place. They're all in a 1-2-3 spreadsheet with buttons that let you find any loco quickly.

If you can handle a 1-2-3 spresdsheet, I can send you a copy.

Ray Stilwell

[scottychaos]

thanks chanus, good list!

according to this roster:
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/lv_rstr.html
LV 116 was a HH660 and 117 was an S1!
did they really have the same classification??
or is there a mistake in there?

Scot

[GRSJr]

DS-3
Loco Reclass HP Builder Model New
116 AS-6 660 ALCO 69075 S-1 1940
117 AS-6 660 ALCO 77998 S-1 Jun-50

Can't get things to line up, but as you can see LV 116 is an ALCO S-1 construction #69075 and LV117 is the same with construction #77998.
Both were classified as DS-3.

I conclude that the roster you used is in error.

Both are classified as AS-6 in the most recent reclassification.

Ray Stilwell

[RSD15]

from rosters i have..

LV 116 HH660 blt 2/40 # 69078
LV 117 S-1 blt 6/50 # 77998

CNJ 1023 HH600 12/38 # 69075

as far as i can tell LV only had one S-1 the 117. it appears they just lumped class by HP.note class DS6 1000 hp has both S-2s and S-4s.
charles

[GRSJr]

My info comes from The Railway & Locomotive Historical Society, Bulletin 126, p.97. But they could be wrong.

Here's a picture of LV116 which the article lists as an "ALCO HH600", figure that one.



I must admit it doesn't look like LV117, which is definitely an S-1. So much for the R&LHS.

[scottychaos]

from rosters i have..

LV 116 HH660 blt 2/40 # 69078
LV 117 S-1 blt 6/50 # 77998

CNJ 1023 HH600 12/38 # 69075

as far as i can tell LV only had one S-1 the 117. it appears they just lumped class by HP.note class DS6 1000 hp has both S-2s and S-4s.
charles

I also believe that is the correct information.
LV 116 was a HH660, not a S1.
that is listed on every LV roster I have.

this information:

DS-3
Loco Reclass HP Builder Model New
116 AS-6 660 ALCO 69075 S-1 1940
117 AS-6 660 ALCO 77998 S-1 Jun-50

Is *not* correct for number 116.
116 is a HH660,
and Alco builder number 69075 is a CNJ HH660.

http://yardlimit.railfan.net/alco/roster/

that HH660 roster lists 69078 as LV 116
and 69075 as CNJ 1023.

All the rosters agree...except the one that says LV116 is an Alco S1
so that one is the most likely to be incorrect..

LV must have assigned them the same classfication, because they were Alco switchers with the same horsepower..even though they were different models!

Scot

[GRSJr]

Sorry, I meant HH660 in my last post. Don't know how to edit a post on this forum.

Thanks Scott for clearing up the model onLV105 too. They;re ugly ducklings to say the least.