NJTRailfan wrote:I loved the dome on Super Chief because theres a dining area with lounge. The Domes on the CZ were pretty cool but all they were were just coaches. They would be popular if they had lounges as well.
To elaborate on Mr. NJT's thoughts, the Super Chief Pleasure Dome had a Dining room branded the Turquoise Room that was located in the short end ahead of the dome. This room could be reserved for parties of six (max seating 12); otherwise was simply used as overflow dining space.
It would appear to me it was a "female pup' for the crew to "work' as they had to navigate carrying trays of food between the diner and the Room - as I recall there was no automatic door arrangement.
The Pleasure Domes did see Amtrak service until Superliners were assigned to 3-4, I believe the Turquoise Room was even used during the Amtrak era on occasion.
Regarding the CZ Domes, three such were 46 seat 28 Dome seat Coaches - in short one non revenue seat for every 1.64 passengers - utterly absurd by today's standards. There were two domes for the five Pullman sleeping cars (111 pax) which made for a somewhat more rational dome seat for each 2.31 passengers. If that wasn't enough, there was a Coach Diner Lounge mid train (also crew dorm and Pullman Dome). Pullman passengers also had the Dome obs with lounge. Not even AOE offers that much non-revenue space; maybe a cruise ship does.
Lastly Mr. Loco, I give the North Coast Limited the edge over the Empire Builder - rode 'em both during the 60's. All I can say for the Builder, then and now, is "if you've seen one wheatfield, you've seen 'em all'.