Do you think R&S has any use for Charlotte Yard or just to the box shop?
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Their interest is in Weyerhauser. The R&S doesn't need the yard.
Matt Langworthy
"It is highly likely that the 1990s were an overrated decade."
"It is highly likely that the 1990s were an overrated decade."
I believe that's now IP, think Weyerhaeuser sold it a few years back. Might have had another name in between but I'm not sure of that.
That's another piece of business that's gone. In the 70's there was another track going into the east side of the plant, where they loaded outbound cars. It was boxes for Milkbone dog biscuits at Niagara Falls, and bundles of scrap corrugated going to National Gypsum at Oakfield. Not only is the traffic itself gone but you would never guess there was ever another track.
I doubt the pulpboard traffic inbound is too robust either. They used to handle about 3 cars a day at one point.
The paper business in general is nothing like it used to be. In addition to the obvious questions of how many cars, how much track to maintain, a prudent railroad would ask how much longer will the factory continue to operate at all?
That's another piece of business that's gone. In the 70's there was another track going into the east side of the plant, where they loaded outbound cars. It was boxes for Milkbone dog biscuits at Niagara Falls, and bundles of scrap corrugated going to National Gypsum at Oakfield. Not only is the traffic itself gone but you would never guess there was ever another track.
I doubt the pulpboard traffic inbound is too robust either. They used to handle about 3 cars a day at one point.
The paper business in general is nothing like it used to be. In addition to the obvious questions of how many cars, how much track to maintain, a prudent railroad would ask how much longer will the factory continue to operate at all?
Weyerhauser/IP might be more viable than you think. If NYS has given them a tax break (e.g. PILOT program) then it might not be expensive for them to operate the Rochester location. And speaking of location, it may make good strategic sense for them to have a Northeastern location. Thus it might make sense for the R&S to purchase the line. Like any responsible business, the R&S would carefully investigate the line before making the purchase... assuming they are still interested in it. My source gave me the tip about the R&S a couple years ago.
As noted previously, the R&S isn't interested in the yard. Regardless of whether CSX actually sells the active segment to the R&S, it's pretty safe to assume the rails in the yard will be lifted at some point.
As noted previously, the R&S isn't interested in the yard. Regardless of whether CSX actually sells the active segment to the R&S, it's pretty safe to assume the rails in the yard will be lifted at some point.
Matt Langworthy
"It is highly likely that the 1990s were an overrated decade."
"It is highly likely that the 1990s were an overrated decade."
I just heard the NF Dispatcher say "the Charlotte" was recently changed to "other than main track"
This implies it was Rule 94 before and is now Rule 96, restricted speed, not under Dispatcher authority.
This implies it was Rule 94 before and is now Rule 96, restricted speed, not under Dispatcher authority.
Wasn't this line downgraded to "Industrial Track" (or some equivalent) a few years ago?
Saw a 10 box car freight headed "N' across Dewey today. Funny thing, It had a caboose. Around 12:30 PM
If the track north of the box shop is out of service, they proabably need the caboose now for the shove back to either the sidings at Kodak or Rochester Yard as they can no longer run the engine around the train in Charlotte.
Gyro wrote:Saw a 10 box car freight headed "N' across Dewey today. Funny thing, It had a caboose. Around 12:30 PMThey have been using the caboose for some time now. Like Les mentioned, that's a necessity now that the track north
of the box shop is OOS. Saw them shoving south over the McCall Road crossing around a month ago. No camera with me
of course.
Charlie
~Charlie Ricker
Got it covered. Northbound train, with caboose, crossing Dewey Ave. Here you go!
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BR&P wrote:Got it covered. Northbound train, with caboose, crossing Dewey Ave. Here you go!Great shot, those wooden hacks were truly a thing of beauty!
Charlie
~Charlie Ricker
charlie6017 wrote: Great shot, those wooden hacks were truly a thing of beauty!Charlie, NYC had between 2,000 and 3,000 of those. As near as I can determine, the 19877 at Rochester & Genesee Valley RR Museum is the ONLY survivor which still has shiny wheels. Lots on static display, but I believe that's the only one still rolling.
Charlie
Is a caboose required by federal regulation for a shove move or is it just a CSX policy? I'm asking because I've see the LA&L, FGLK and the O&H all do shove moves of a mile or more without a caboose.
Matt Langworthy
"It is highly likely that the 1990s were an overrated decade."
"It is highly likely that the 1990s were an overrated decade."
Is a caboose required by federal regulation for a shove move or is it just a CSX policy? I'm asking because I've see the LA&L, FGLK and the O&H all do shove moves of a mile or more without a caboose.Matt, I'd say the second part of your post answers the first.
