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 #1548560  by SST
 
I've been meaning for a while to open this topic. In this photo, you are looking west towards Canada and you see the bridge crossing over it. Today, that bridge is no longer there. It was removed sometime last year I think. Still road construction going on. I don't really like the removal of it because now you don't get a good view overlooking both bridges.

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 #1548709  by SST
 
CPSmith wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:44 am Good riddance !
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/call ... e-trending
Thanks for posting that article. I don't get the paper anymore so I would have missed it.

It will be interesting if enough bicyclists can be produced to save Main St Niagara Falls. That place is dead and almost every store front is boarded up. Only two places that seems to have activity and that's the police department and Burger King. Fortunately, I've only been to BK.
 #1548831  by DGC-24711
 
SST wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:53 am
CPSmith wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:44 am Good riddance !
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/call ... e-trending
Thanks for posting that article. I don't get the paper anymore so I would have missed it.

It will be interesting if enough bicyclists can be produced to save Main St Niagara Falls. That place is dead and almost every store front is boarded up. Only two places that seems to have activity and that's the police department and Burger King. Fortunately, I've only been to BK.
And the Rapids Theater? Is that on the same street I thought I remembered parking adjacent to the Police Station and walking to it...but back to the Rob Mo

Coming from my sister in laws house in Youngstown to Tonawanda like everytime I took the wrong exit and had to lollygag along that elevated parkway at 40 mph because the lane was narrow and the opposite lane was gone already or something. Now I live to the east so it's a different route to get lost on.

Non Amtrak but still Niagara Gorge..still flips me out to think of the strumph people from both sides of the river had to put in tourist driven rail around it
 #1548903  by DGC-24711
 
SST wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:30 am You mean the Great Gorge Railway?
Exactly. I"m amazed at the "whatever lets do it" attitude out of the industrial revolution era. I got this book about it from the E-L Freight House museum on Oliver St in North Tonawanda. A hefty drop in ridership made their decision not to rebuild after ice in the river took track out. I don't think about the automobile and personal transit rocketing at the time, I see that monster rock along the Whirlpool Trail and how tracks were actually between it and the cliff.
 #1548939  by MACTRAXX
 
Everyone: Interesting subject about the Niagara Falls, NY Station and the major changes
that have resulted from the Niagara Scenic Parkway Removal Project.

I discovered the flyover viaduct removal after watching this video dated 9/8/2019
earlier this year showing Amtrak #64 crossing the Whirlpool Bridge
eastbound describing that this will be the last day of service over the
WB until November due to a construction project. I watched this video
and noticed that the viaduct was missing - and with a search found the
subject "Niagara Scenic Parkway REMOVAL" which I found rather interesting...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PP8LZaiBBYI
(Posted by Rails Canada)

New York State DOT has a web page about the NSP Removal Project:
https://www.dot.ny.gov/NSPRemoval
In the Photos/Visualizations area there are interesting pictures of the viaduct demolition
which also includes demolishing the former MC Railroad overpass connection at Whirlpool
Street - sealing off the east end of the MC Railroad bridge across the Niagara Gorge.

These three videos can be added to this subject:
Niagara Parkway Bridge Coming Down - WGRZ-2 Buffalo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uHhUwT20esY
(March 19, 2019)
Train #64 crossing Whirlpool Bridge 9/28/2016 - from NSP viaduct
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDJGYUyqFk
(The Transport Net)
Drone video - Whirlpool and MCRR Bridges 1/28/2018
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aGlowbKvySQ
(gforce118118)
This video shows the bridges area before the 2019 changes.

I remember the flyover viaduct from a late June 2002 visit to Niagara
Falls - the southbound side was closed to vehicle traffic and was being
used as a pedestrian walkway - I walked the viaduct with a friend and
remember seeing Amtrak #63 cross the Whirlpool Bridge westbound.
The bridge appeared that it had been just been re-decked with a new
concrete road surface at that time - and that just 18 years later would
end up being torn down with the NSP Removal Project...MACTRAXX
 #1549049  by SST
 
Thanks for those videos. It appears to me in the drone vid.... the park is digging through the rock fall that took out the railway years ago. These photo were taken Sept 2006.
http://www.railfan.net/railpix/submit/s ... Bridge.jpg

Giant Rock: http://www.railfan.net/railpix/submit/s ... t_rock.jpg

Plaque of Giant Rock: http://www.railfan.net/railpix/submit/s ... t_rock.jpg

Last year while riding my bike along the river in Canada, I found Giant Rock from the top of the gorge. I did take a photo of it but I can't find it at the moment. Beautiful sunset lighting against the rock.
 #1553306  by 1Loran
 
I was through that area yesterday. They have put a lot of time and money into completing the bike trail from the Falls to Lewiston. It passes the site of the old RM Pkwy bridge at ground level. Many trees have been planted and this area is going to be nice! Whirlpool St is repaved and nice to drive on. The most striking change is the demolition of the approach to the Michigan Central bridge that spanned Whirlpool St and the Customs parking lot. The structure has been reduced to the steel portions of the bridge itself. Sad to see. The deadline for the demolition of the bridge passed 20 years ago, and its future seems especially bleak now.