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 #207798  by timz
 
Charlie7 wrote:Was the original Erie Paterson Station at the same grade level as it is today, or was the grade changed when the connection to the re-routed former DL&W line was made in 1963?
Offhand I'm guessing the Erie station was built in the 1930s, but might have been mid to late 1920s. I'll check.

 #207807  by timz
 
Railway Age for 13 Aug 1932 tells about the track elevation thru Paterson. It started in 1924 and the main line (thru) station was built 1930-31.

 #207867  by Steve F45
 
Hey does anyone know what was just south of the newer pasterson station? It looks like the old one. You can see where tracks look like they ran between what looks like old platforms.

 #208014  by CarterB
 
Back in the 'old days', many trains originated/terminated at Paterson. Those were the tracks for same.
 #1349855  by erie910
 
The Lackawanna branch to Paterson was removed after the construction of the elevated connection between the Erie Main Line and the Lackawanna Boonton Line at South Paterson. In the 1960's, this branch still had a diamond in the middle of Main St. left over from the Main St. trolley line. This elevated right-of-way was constructed over the street level Erie Newark Branch connection between its Main Line and the Lackawanna Boonton Line. While the elevated connection was under construction, Newark Branch trains were backed down the Lackawanna Paterson freight track to just east of Main St. Buses provided connections between the Erie Market St., Paterson, station and the temporary terminus of Newark Branch trains on the Lackawanna Paterson freight track. After the merger of the Erie & Lackawanna, plus the diminishing need for freight service in Paterson, all freight was handled from the Erie tracks. The connection between the Erie Main Line and Lackawanna Boonton Line was originally a single track, with the South Paterson station on the elevated connection just west of Main St. New Jersey Transit added a second track and abandoned the South Paterson Station; quite likely, the South Paterson station was primarily a change point between Main Line trains and Newark Branch trains. There was little, if any, parking at South Paterson. The discontinuance of Newark Branch passenger service very likely reduced the need for the South Paterson station.
 #1349881  by Sir Ray
 
jsx wrote:If you look carefully you can still see the ROW of the Paterson City Branch where it branched off from the NYSW main at the intersection of Madison and Ellison. The amazing thing is that there were once 4 tracks crossing Madison here with numerous sidings. If you head into the side streets between Pearl and 16th (be cautious) you'll see where the City Branch tracks used to run. It was double tracked all the way from the NYSW main to the Passenger and Freight stations at Straight St.
Or you could let Google Street be your proxy and get street views like this one on Carroll St., which looks likely to have been the former ROW (spinning around 180 only strengthens this theory, as does looking at the mid-block view of other streets like Summer St.).
 #1349882  by MickD
 
That was the former right of way...
I walked it from Straight St. to just about 18th St. in the early 80s...