Are the current NJT platforms the remains of the Erie Station? I've tried to find any sign of either of the two Susquehanna stations without success - I guess there are no remains of either station nor the Paterson City branch. Where was the Lackawanna station located and is there anything left of the building? Any info appreciated.......
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The Lackawanna station was up on the hill by Garrett Mountain. Although the station itself is long gone, and under highway 20, there are remnants of the yard and the coal bunkers off Marshall street.
The Erie station had a ground level pair of stub tracks, at the southwest side of the building for express packages and local trains via the Newark branch. The trains ascended to the main track level. By 1938, most Newark branch trains ran thru to Waldwick and the lower level became railway express only.
The Erie station had a ground level pair of stub tracks, at the southwest side of the building for express packages and local trains via the Newark branch. The trains ascended to the main track level. By 1938, most Newark branch trains ran thru to Waldwick and the lower level became railway express only.
There was also a DL&W spur to downtown. http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/PASSAIC_COU ... n_1908.jpg and http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/PASSAIC_COU ... n_1895.jpg show the old stations.
SPUI wrote:There was also a DL&W spur to downtown. http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/PASSAIC_COU ... n_1908.jpg and http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/PASSAIC_COU ... n_1895.jpg show the old stations.That's a great map. It also shows the Morris Canal, which was then active (sort of).
Anyone know when the DL&W Paterson City spur was torn out?
If you look carefully you can still see the ROW of the Paterson City Branch where it branched off from the NYSW main at the intersection of Madison and Ellison. The amazing thing is that there were once 4 tracks crossing Madison here with numerous sidings. If you head into the side streets between Pearl and 16th (be cautious) you'll see where the City Branch tracks used to run. It was double tracked all the way from the NYSW main to the Passenger and Freight stations at Straight St.
There were two small sidings on the (compass) north side of the line just before Straight St.
Back in the old times, the Erie was at the same grade as the NYSW, but there was never a connection.
Hope that helps a bit
Jim
There were two small sidings on the (compass) north side of the line just before Straight St.
Back in the old times, the Erie was at the same grade as the NYSW, but there was never a connection.
Hope that helps a bit
Jim
jsx wrote:Thanks for the info. The early pictures of locomotives being dragged down the street from the Rogers Locomotive shops to the Erie occasionally show a street running Erie Main line.
Back in the old times, the Erie was at the same grade as the NYSW, but there was never a connection.
Hope that helps a bit
Jim
I wonder why the DL&W didn't extend its track down toward the industrial area along the Falls district?
At the NYS&W Paterson Broadway station site there is still some sort of signal remnant - a mast or pole. And looking to the west you can see a curved building that gives away the Paterson City spur alignment.
The NYS&W Vreeland Avenue station building survives - it is now part of a larger complex (and for sale, I believe), but it is recognizable. This was a relatively modern station, built in the 40's I believe, to replace the "original" station which burned down, I think.
The NYS&W Vreeland Avenue station building survives - it is now part of a larger complex (and for sale, I believe), but it is recognizable. This was a relatively modern station, built in the 40's I believe, to replace the "original" station which burned down, I think.
Another look at the maps.
--In the 1895 and 1908 map, Paterson is bordered on the south by Acquakanock Twp (Clifton), and by Little Falls on the southwest in 1908. West Paterson later seceded from Little Falls
--Cooke Works / American Locomotive were located along Getty Avenue @ Madison Ave, opposite the farmers market.
--Trolley lines are clearly shown in the 1908 map
--In the 1895 and 1908 map, Paterson is bordered on the south by Acquakanock Twp (Clifton), and by Little Falls on the southwest in 1908. West Paterson later seceded from Little Falls
--Cooke Works / American Locomotive were located along Getty Avenue @ Madison Ave, opposite the farmers market.
--Trolley lines are clearly shown in the 1908 map
Was the original Erie Paterson Station at the same grade level as it is today, or was the grade changed when the connection to the re-routed former DL&W line was made in 1963?
That's why I asked the question, when I saw that pic on the thread "a friend just sent me." Then I did a search, and I found this other thread. Have you ever noticed that when you look south from Route 80 in Paterson, the NJT tracks are at a much higher elevation than the old Erie mainline?
Irony, ah yes! As a child growing up in Paterson, I was surrounded by tracks yet had no interest in trains. Now I'm in southern Ocean County, fascinated by them, and nary a track in sight. 