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 #538493  by henry6
 
You've got to remember Chester was the only place in the U.S. where the soil contained enough natural creasoate so that they could grow telephone poles there.

And CJVRR, the tram/gravity was real indeed...it was on a circa 1860 map I saw last week and in Lowenthal's Iron Mining book. (See my post on the Green Pond thread, this forum,)
 #986927  by antolino264
 
To answer your question much of the grade was completed on the Montclair end. A tunnel was to be built through first mountain in Montclair and Verona. The cut leading to the tunnel was visible until around 1989 when MKA built their field in the area of Upper Mountain an Claremont Avenues. The exit to this tunnel would have been in the area of Annin Flag in Verona, part of the grade from Annin Flag to Verona Park still exsists in Verona to this day, however brush and trees have taken over in recent years. The most notable remnants are in Verona Park, Duck Island as it's called by locals was built as footing for a trestle that would have spanned the lake from an area on the hill behind the playground to the large embankment in the area of the church on Lakeside Avenue. The tunnel was abandoned in the "Panic of 1873". There was hope for several years that the line would be completed when the NY and Greenwood Lake Railroad took over the right of way, however in 1892 the railroad came via a different route on what is now known as the West Essex Trail Connecting with the Montclair and Booton Line at Great Notch running to Essex Fells I do not know if this connected with what is now the Morristown and Erie RR's line running through East Hanover and into Roseland.

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 #987385  by Ken W2KB
 
pdman wrote:Thanks for the info, guys. Great stuff.

In the past 20 years I've had the opportunity to travel a lot outside the U.S. What I've noticed is how towns in the U.S. were often named for towns in Europe, but that they often had similar geographiesl, landscapes, and more.

Chester, NJ sits on a hill with surrounding cedar trees, relatively low level farming productivity, soil conditions, etc. The cedar trees love acid soil which is the opposite of what good farming needs. That geography looks almost the same as a town in the U.K. also named Chester. It is about twenty miles southeast of Liverpool. Same look to the land, some similar trees, etc.
In at least some cases, prospective immigrants sent 'scouts' to the USA to locate areas that were similar to the home country. Especially useful if the immigrants were to continue in the same farming, herding, industrial endeavors; they wanted similar geography so that learned skills could be more easily transferred to their new home. That would account for some of the correlation you noticed.