• Beesley's Point Future

  • Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in New Jersey
Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in New Jersey

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  by glennk419
 
The plant is online today.
  by bluedash2
 
Consider they just had two coal trains in the last few weeks. The last one left monday night..
  by bluedash2
 
I guess there's no further word on what's going on?
  by glennk419
 
bluedash2 wrote:Consider they just had two coal trains in the last few weeks. The last one left monday night..
I remember Easter's past where there would be a V-779 sitting on the siding at Milmay. It is about that time where they start stockpiling for the summer. With the current price of crude, I'm somewhat surprised that it's been all coal lately.
  by bluedash2
 
I believe they only have one coal burner in operation. I remember and miss those days. I guess they order as they need it but they've only been getting a handful of coal trains per year the last couple of years. 😞
  by Ken W2KB
 
Both natural gas and nuclear are substantially less expensive than coal or oil so the units only get dispatched when loads are higher and/or needed for reliability in the area. For the past and future deactivation status of all generation in PJM see http://www.pjm.com/planning/generation- ... aries.aspx
  by wolfboy8171981
 
Where did the South Jersey Port Request come from?
  by bluedash2
 
Trainlawyer wrote:Gentlemen,

The New Jersey FY 14 Rail Freight Assistance Program grants were announced earlier this week. One which did not make the final cut was: Conrail, Flash Butt Welding, Beesley's Point Secondary from MP 27 to MP 30 $468,277.28 90% $421,449.55

http://www.nj.gov/transportation/about/ ... 33115.shtm leading to http://www.nj.gov/transportation/about/ ... grants.pdf

A table showing the original requests is available at http://www.nj.gov/transportation/freigh ... rogram.pdf

GME
That part is below the Block Bart- or just below Winslow.....not that far down but 51 runs to Tuckahoe sometimes to drop off/pick up stored cars...
  by glennk419
 
bluedash2 wrote:
Trainlawyer wrote:Gentlemen,

The New Jersey FY 14 Rail Freight Assistance Program grants were announced earlier this week. One which did not make the final cut was: Conrail, Flash Butt Welding, Beesley's Point Secondary from MP 27 to MP 30 $468,277.28 90% $421,449.55

http://www.nj.gov/transportation/about/ ... 33115.shtm leading to http://www.nj.gov/transportation/about/ ... grants.pdf

A table showing the original requests is available at http://www.nj.gov/transportation/freigh ... rogram.pdf

GME
That part is below the Block Bart- or just below Winslow.....not that far down but 51 runs to Tuckahoe sometimes to drop off/pick up stored cars...
Does the Folsom team track see much action these days?
  by glennk419
 
The plant is online for the second consecutive day. I wonder if this is due the fire at the Indian Point nuke plant in New York?
  by ccutler
 
I would imagine the price of electricity went up when Indian Point's 1GW capacity went down. The higher prices would be driving other plants into profitability to operate, at least until Indian Point is fixed.
  by Ken W2KB
 
ccutler wrote:I would imagine the price of electricity went up when Indian Point's 1GW capacity went down. The higher prices would be driving other plants into profitability to operate, at least until Indian Point is fixed.
Most of the time the prices in the PJM RTO are lower than in the New York ISO so the tie lines tend to be fully loaded much of the time from PJM into NY. I don't think Indian Point is the reason, though it might factor in somewhat. More likely is that the current hot weather is occurring in the shoulder period between the winter peak and summer peak periods. June 1st is the start of the PJM peak summer period and I think NY ISO's is the same date. Most generation outages for maintenance are scheduled during the spring and fall shoulder periods since demand is less. That changes when unusually hot weather drives up demand so higher cost generating units not currently in maintenance outage status can successfully bid into the market.
Last edited by Ken W2KB on Tue May 12, 2015 4:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
  by ccutler
 
Thanks, seems that you have a close understanding of the electricity markets.
  by Wingnut
 
The coal burning at the power plant is living on borrowed time. When it finally does end, will there be enough non-coal business to support keeping the line in service, even if they have to lower the speed to 10 mph?
  by pumpers
 
I read somewhere on-line the other day the gas pipeline to Beesley's was approved by some end-around maneuver recently by the Pinelands Commission chairperson, after the committee voted it down a number of months ago. JS
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