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  by NJT4149
 
Permission on Church at 3:02 PM... 4421, 5628, and 17 Woodhavens today
  by Coast Line Railfan
 
SA-31 in Red Bank with a Leslie engine leading . . .

Clear of Patterson Street in Shrewsbury at 16:41 PM.
  by RailsEast
 
Good horn on 4421, but terrible radio; anyway, approaching Maxwell Rd at 4:55 in the pm.
  by CSX4421
 
Leslie express at Hamilton 5:15 PM
  by Bracdude181
 
Just my two cents on all the recent MOM posts.

While it is definitely possible for Transit to have a station in Toms River, I believe it probably won't happen. Transit has considered Toms River as the southern terminus for the proposed line, but it seems that they would prefer to have it terminate in Lakehurst. As for Ciba Geicy, It's going to be at least another 30 years or so before they completely clean the site up. The ground itself has been cleaned up for the most part, but the groundwater is still pretty bad. If anyone wants to do anything with the property, I'd recommend they do so soon because apparently the county wants to put in a housing development there once the site is clean. (?!)

Personally, I'd like to see the Ciba site become a rail/truck transloading facility that can serve all the industries on Route 9 south of Toms River and in the surrounding area where the trains can't go. I have heard that New Jersey Seashore Lines has looked into doing just that, but they are waiting to see how the sand trains go first.
  by Coast Line Railfan
 
As of this afternoon, NS 5286 "Operation Lifesaver" has replaced CSX 4421 in the yard.
  by Tanker1497
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:12 pm Just my two cents on all the recent MOM posts.

While it is definitely possible for Transit to have a station in Toms River, I believe it probably won't happen. Transit has considered Toms River as the southern terminus for the proposed line, but it seems that they would prefer to have it terminate in Lakehurst. As for Ciba Geicy, It's going to be at least another 30 years or so before they completely clean the site up. The ground itself has been cleaned up for the most part, but the groundwater is still pretty bad. If anyone wants to do anything with the property, I'd recommend they do so soon because apparently the county wants to put in a housing development there once the site is clean. (?!)

Personally, I'd like to see the Ciba site become a rail/truck transloading facility that can serve all the industries on Route 9 south of Toms River and in the surrounding area where the trains can't go. I have heard that New Jersey Seashore Lines has looked into doing just that, but they are waiting to see how the sand trains go first.
The property at Ciba is huge 1350 acre's they only ever use 25% of left center. That leaves a bunch of land never touched by anything. The same dirt trials that cross this area still exsist on most the property. All the rails after the tree line were removed, most buildings are gone. There are people working there, the phone comapany still works on the alarm lines and such. They give tours every few years. And for the most part wasn't responceable for most of the cancers issues in TR. The Reich Farm was mostly and did it through wells 6,7,8 when they were told to shut them down and local officals turn them on every summer. And continuted too every year and were fined! But if your looking for restitusion you need to follow the money, and that was Ciba Guigy Not saying that the people that got sick in the Oak ridge Pkwy section wasn't the Toms River Chemical fault. It was, but from privite wells being poluted from them. But for the rest on the town they found wells 6,7,8 were the only wells that were capable in suppling water to every single home. The ground water from the farm goes down 40 50 thousand feet. Ciba piped all the fluids into the Toms River, and it wasn't illegal. It was solid waste that was on the propery that leached into surface wells. Ask me how I know... I'm 1000ft from the farm and 1500 feet from the Ciba border. The came in and paid to fill all the wells in my area, all the small farms were forced to close cause they had to pay for water. My developement is an old farm! That area where the buildings were would make a great train yard! Nobody lives in a train yard. That is probaley the only thing that works!
  by nomis
 
Would the “stalled freight train near Woodbridge” that was announced on NJ 101.5 affect this week’s run?
  by Coast Line Railfan
 
nomis wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:53 pm Would the “stalled freight train near Woodbridge” that was announced on NJ 101.5 affect this week’s run?
Nope. That train is believed to the PR-08 trying to drill customers on the NJCL.
  by CSX4421
 
Any news on SA31 today yet?
  by Coast Line Railfan
 
CSX4421 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:14 pm Any news on SA31 today yet?
In South Amboy
  by Bracdude181
 
Today's SA31

CSX 4421 leading (wtf when did it come back)
CSX 4432 trailing. 15 cars today.

Also that train that broke down on the coast line, that was a Conrail yard job (PR-08?) that ran a red signal and then the PTC made the controls unresponsive.
  by Coast Line Railfan
 
Stopped north of Sycamore Ave.
  by Coast Line Railfan
 
Coast Line Railfan wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:59 pm Stopped north of Sycamore Ave.
On the move again
  by RailsEast
 
14 Woodhavens & a tank for Bel-Ray, approaching Maxwell Rd at 5:10 in the pm.
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