• Grafton & Upton Railroad (G&U) Discussion

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  by BandA
 
G&U seems to be on good terms with CSX since they interchange with them, so maybe they sold some sticks to them at a good price.
  by johnpbarlow
 
Work progresses extending the G&U mainline from Hopedale toward Milford. Here's a view of new stone dropped along the RoW at Hopedale just south of the rte 16 crossing looking toward the rehabbed Hopedale St bridge. Stone has been dropped for a ways beyond the bridge toward Milford.
G&U RoW Hopedale St bridge 062319 2 small.jpg
The view north toward rte 16 crossing at Hopedale and current end of track.
G&U rte 16 crossing Hopedale 062319 small.jpg
Looks like a new siding will be installed adjacent to the mainline for car storage - stone has been spread and strings of rail and new ties are being staged.
G&U new siding RoW Hopedale 062319 small.jpg
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  by MaineCoonCat
 
I wonder about that driveway at (I think it's) 14 Greene Street..
  by g-and-u-watcher
 
I drove down Green Street yesterday to see how the ROW looked. The blacktop had been removed from the section of the infamous driveway where it crosses the ROW, and it looked like there may have been gravel/ballast spread in the gap. I didn’t want to linger/rubberneck too long so I’m not certain about the ballast stone, but the blacktop had definitely been removed from that section.
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  by BandA
 
Is the Greene St driveway an unauthorized private crossing? If so how long has it been there? Can you create a Right of Way crossing a ROW by adverse possession? That would be a can of worms...
  by bostontrainguy
 
Can't accurately answer your question but if you check out Google Earth a house and that driveway were there in 1995 which is the earliest you can go back.
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  by MaineCoonCat
 
Interesting that Google Maps has it as 35 Greene St. Yet it is 14 Greene St. Looking at OLIVER http://maps.massgis.state.ma.us/map_ol/oliver.php It would seem there is no 35 Greene St. Were there one, it would be on the opposite side of the street. FWIW, according to OLIVER, the house was built in 1949.. I'd be interested in prowling the registry of deeds to see what I can dig up as far as the crossing. Maybe later on this afternoon if I get time..
Greene st.PNG
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  by MaineCoonCat
 
MaineCoonCat wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:08 am Interesting that Google Maps has it as 35 Greene St. Yet it is 14 Greene St. Looking at OLIVER http://maps.massgis.state.ma.us/map_ol/oliver.php It would seem there is no 35 Greene St. Were there one, it would be on the opposite side of the street. FWIW, according to OLIVER, the house was built in 1949.. I'd be interested in prowling the registry of deeds to see what I can dig up as far as the crossing. Maybe later on this afternoon if I get time..
Greene st.PNG
UPDATE 6/26/2019 17:18 EDT
I STRUCK GOLD!!
14 Greene St plan1a.png
14 Greene St right of way crossing1.png
14 Greene St deed Coffey Bozzini.1.png
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  by BandA
 
That's pretty darn legit!! Learned a bit too! Now someone has to finish the paving up to the crossing & erect signage.
  by craven
 
Welded Rail has been laid across the bridge...( assume to project the pitch of grade down to Rt. 16.

Progress !!
  by BandA
 
That's a really big ask to take 155 acres. Are the current owners like a family trust that has owned it for hundreds of years, or just some real estate speculator that would be willing to sell but is holding out because it is a key parcel? Generally these things should be done on a voluntary basis or not at all. It's not like "hey we need a couple of feet so we can add a second track". G&U already has transload yards, and they have or had the Draper property available. Even in a rural areas, 155 acre lots are precious things.

Government agencies are not good at making these sort of decisions wisely.
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