Maybe they are looking for some Alcos with six-to-eight AXLES! :-D
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WNY&P WANTS 6-8 six axle Alcos
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Maybe they are looking for some Alcos with six-to-eight AXLES! :-D
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Alcoman wrote:Where are they going to find 1/2 dozen or so six axle ALCOS ?????Perhaps the NYSW will be willing to let go of their collection.
The NYS&W fleet seems to be the only logical option. Since the Q has been rebuilding their SDs, maybe they can spare four or five M636s.
Sandy
Sandy
What Sandy says makes sense. Not a lot of choices. Based on NRE's track record the 616's would probably cost a mint. (NRE rarely resells Alcos, but parts them out as the parts are worth more than the units as a whole.)
Unless Cartier is ready to part with their remaining Big Alcos, the NYSW is the best bet. The only bet. I guess they could lease or buy the DL's. (Oh God, now I've done it. I should point out that that's NOT likely to happen in my mind. VERY unlikely.)
Nope, I have to agree with Sandy, the NYS&W has been operating with only one Alco in service so its clear they can live without them. Here's their chance to get their investment back. A win-win for both parties. (Still I wouldn't bet money on it, though I like the idea.) Time will tell.
RS
Unless Cartier is ready to part with their remaining Big Alcos, the NYSW is the best bet. The only bet. I guess they could lease or buy the DL's. (Oh God, now I've done it. I should point out that that's NOT likely to happen in my mind. VERY unlikely.)
Nope, I have to agree with Sandy, the NYS&W has been operating with only one Alco in service so its clear they can live without them. Here's their chance to get their investment back. A win-win for both parties. (Still I wouldn't bet money on it, though I like the idea.) Time will tell.
RS
Sandy Burton wrote:The NYS&W fleet seems to be the only logical option. Since the Q has been rebuilding their SDs, maybe they can spare four or five M636s.4 or 5? They only have 1 that actually runs. they've been working on a new computer system for another, another is beeing worked on. and the rest i think are just dead in the water.
Sandy
2005Vdub wrote:As long as they have not been scrapped, they are still candidates for sale. Anything can be sold...for the right price.Sandy Burton wrote:The NYS&W fleet seems to be the only logical option. Since the Q has been rebuilding their SDs, maybe they can spare four or five M636s.4 or 5? They only have 1 that actually runs. they've been working on a new computer system for another, another is beeing worked on. and the rest i think are just dead in the water.
Sandy
A, What the NYSW has running has nothing to do with the how many LA&L/WNY&P can run. They wouldn't be the first units LA&L/WNY&P purchased that were not ready to run. B, I understand NYS&W has two more almost ready to return to service so they should have at least 3 in service soon. C, There's a world of difference between the NYS&W and the LA&L/WNY&P.
RS
RS
well maybe wnyp will try and purchase the few alcos from nysw that are oos.
This topic is good, but let's be sure to keep with the topic at hand.....WNYP wanting six to eight 6 axles ALCos.
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My only thought here is, that since the eight 636s currently on NYS&W were owned by WNYP/M&E management folks and sold to NYS&W... geeze, doesn't it sound like WNYP HAD their "6-8 six axle Alcos" and then sold them?
And not to discredit MR. Burt or the SOurce, but where is this apparently HUGE amount of sand traffic going to come from that didn't exist until just now?
Something here still isn't adding up.
And not to discredit MR. Burt or the SOurce, but where is this apparently HUGE amount of sand traffic going to come from that didn't exist until just now?
Something here still isn't adding up.
You'd be surprised about the amount of traffic that could show up on the WNYP.
And, again...did you read some of the other information, specifically, the word from Mr. Burt at a dinner in Cuba?
The need for the larger units is there. Or will be within 12 months.
Dave Becker
And, again...did you read some of the other information, specifically, the word from Mr. Burt at a dinner in Cuba?
The need for the larger units is there. Or will be within 12 months.
Dave Becker
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A lot of Class I's don't want to even bother with sand. (Classic example is the BN's Ft Smith line, then when A&M took over sand became a big business for them, business BN didn't want.) It makes sense for the WNY&P to go after the sand business. Its perfect traffic for them.
And Mr Becker is right, there's a lot of traffic out there just waiting to for someone to go after. I'd bet on Mr Burt every time. (Might not win every time, but I'd sure come out ahead.)
As to "had the units", yes, they did. (Or so that's my take.) Alas timing is everything and I *suspect* the long time getting the BL line takeover up and going meant they couldn't justify the lease/purchase of the units till they at least had the BL line on the radar. When NYS&W came calling for the units the owners could hardly afford to turn down money in hand vs money in the bush. Still lets hope they end up on the WNY&P in the end.
RS
And Mr Becker is right, there's a lot of traffic out there just waiting to for someone to go after. I'd bet on Mr Burt every time. (Might not win every time, but I'd sure come out ahead.)
As to "had the units", yes, they did. (Or so that's my take.) Alas timing is everything and I *suspect* the long time getting the BL line takeover up and going meant they couldn't justify the lease/purchase of the units till they at least had the BL line on the radar. When NYS&W came calling for the units the owners could hardly afford to turn down money in hand vs money in the bush. Still lets hope they end up on the WNY&P in the end.
RS
I'm not sure the WNYP actually owned the 636s. As I recall it, SIXX owned th e locomotives.