Some time to kill at EWR gave me an opportunity to visit Berkeley Heights (where I lived in the 70s) and ride the M&E for the first time in almost 40 years. I used the iPhone app to buy the tickets which led me to some questions and observations.
Bought via Secaucus since changing there and the Newark-Broad were the best options. Same for the return unless I returned late afternoon when the Trip Planner suggested Hoboken and Secaucus. Setting the Trip Planner to All rather than just Rail added connection options in Newark using buses and Light Rail.
I noticed the ticket the app generated codes for what I assume were the permissible change locations. SEC - Secaucus was obvious; I was surprised to see NYP but in searching old threads, I see you can go all the way to NYP if you want; SMM is I assume is Summit; BNW = Newark - Broad?; and then it also has NLR. I cant figure that one out unless it means Newark Light Rail. If so, is the ride included? Trip Planner options via the Light Rail show an added fare for it (and also show the via Secaucus fare which I'm pretty sure is wrong).
OTOH, as I mentioned, some of the Trip Planner option were via Hoboken but HOB was not on the ticket as a valid change point (the app does offer via Secaucus and via Hoboken for tickets - I guess one would just have to know you need via Secaucus when doing both). I wonder what a conductor on a Suffern train would say when shown a Berkeley Heights to EWR ticket?
One other oddity: I was ahead of schedule and due to the ongoing tunnel issues, decided that just moving was the best option. So was at Secaucus about 30 minutes ahead of the planned arrival, saw that there was a Dover train in about 20 minutes, and decided to take that to Summit and wait for the Gladstone train there. Except that I decided to use the restroom which is on the other side of the fare gates. No problem getting to the restroom but then it wouldn't let me back to the upper level platforms. A cop standing by the gate let me through while saying "it's not unlimited" (apparently, I should have said something on my way out that I'd need to be let back in). And while that should be true, their system should also be smart enough to recognize that an out-and-back to the side the restrooms are on is legitimate.
I wonder if it's because Secaucus was built with the primary purpose of ML/BC/PV to NYP connections in mind with the cross the Tracks A-B platform connections (Corridor et al. to M&E and M-B lines) being secondary and not really thought about in the operation of the fare gates.
Anyway, it was fun trip. When I last was on the Gladstone Branch, it was still the green 1930s MU cars.
Bought via Secaucus since changing there and the Newark-Broad were the best options. Same for the return unless I returned late afternoon when the Trip Planner suggested Hoboken and Secaucus. Setting the Trip Planner to All rather than just Rail added connection options in Newark using buses and Light Rail.
I noticed the ticket the app generated codes for what I assume were the permissible change locations. SEC - Secaucus was obvious; I was surprised to see NYP but in searching old threads, I see you can go all the way to NYP if you want; SMM is I assume is Summit; BNW = Newark - Broad?; and then it also has NLR. I cant figure that one out unless it means Newark Light Rail. If so, is the ride included? Trip Planner options via the Light Rail show an added fare for it (and also show the via Secaucus fare which I'm pretty sure is wrong).
OTOH, as I mentioned, some of the Trip Planner option were via Hoboken but HOB was not on the ticket as a valid change point (the app does offer via Secaucus and via Hoboken for tickets - I guess one would just have to know you need via Secaucus when doing both). I wonder what a conductor on a Suffern train would say when shown a Berkeley Heights to EWR ticket?
One other oddity: I was ahead of schedule and due to the ongoing tunnel issues, decided that just moving was the best option. So was at Secaucus about 30 minutes ahead of the planned arrival, saw that there was a Dover train in about 20 minutes, and decided to take that to Summit and wait for the Gladstone train there. Except that I decided to use the restroom which is on the other side of the fare gates. No problem getting to the restroom but then it wouldn't let me back to the upper level platforms. A cop standing by the gate let me through while saying "it's not unlimited" (apparently, I should have said something on my way out that I'd need to be let back in). And while that should be true, their system should also be smart enough to recognize that an out-and-back to the side the restrooms are on is legitimate.
I wonder if it's because Secaucus was built with the primary purpose of ML/BC/PV to NYP connections in mind with the cross the Tracks A-B platform connections (Corridor et al. to M&E and M-B lines) being secondary and not really thought about in the operation of the fare gates.
Anyway, it was fun trip. When I last was on the Gladstone Branch, it was still the green 1930s MU cars.
Larry
Reno, NV (yes, I've moved)
ex-N&W Sandusky, Ohio
Reno, NV (yes, I've moved)
ex-N&W Sandusky, Ohio