• Utica Branch Discussion Thread

  • Discussion related to New York, Susquehanna & Western operations past and present. Also includes some discussion related to Deleware Otsego owned and operated shortlines. Official web site can be found here: NYSW.COM.
Discussion related to New York, Susquehanna & Western operations past and present. Also includes some discussion related to Deleware Otsego owned and operated shortlines. Official web site can be found here: NYSW.COM.

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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: 3040 was OOS in New Hartford from Jan 10-12th. The GP40's woes continued, however, as it broke down again yesterday (Jan 19) in New Hartford and it was still there this morning. Here's a photo

On the night of January 18th, however, 3040 seemed in fine form as it headed back to Utica light from Sangerfield:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7MyHv2uDak
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: 3040 broke down in Sangerfield on Jan 20th and was there until the 25th. On that day, help arrived in the form of CSX 2651, a GP38-2. No. 2651 came up from NJ on SU99, then came east from Syracuse on CSX. It was put to work right away, heading to New Hartford to switch Oneida Warehouse and then to SANG to rescue 3040 and bring back empties.

Here's a video showing highlights of 2651's first day on the Utica branch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjTNNqQpoHI

A few screenshots:
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  by ut-1
 
For the first time in 10 months, No. 3618 was pressed into service. The SD-45 assisted CSX leaser 6980 take 13 loads to Sangerfield on April 14th. Here's a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOTPGO68rIk
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: A Holland "TrackSTAR" inspection vehicle ran southbound out of Utica on April 26th. I don't know how far they traveled but my guess would be just to Sangerfield. Traffic levels are slowly rising this spring with 3618 being pressed into service to help power bigger-than-usual trains up Paris Hill to Sangerfield. Yesterday, 15 cars went south powered by CSX leaser 6980 and Susquehanna 3618, an SD45-2.

I caught them on their return to Utica on Schuyler Street and in the yard.

Here's the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EceuI-gKVWU
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: Work on the bridge over NYS Rt 12 was recently completed. I do not know how long the work took, however. Business continues to be steady at New Hartford's Oneida Warehouse. CSX 2514 remains on the branch, possibly as protect power for 3040 which has been back in service for several weeks.

This video features UT-1 northbound on Utica's Schuyler Street about 1/2 hour before sundown on August 23rd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBdAfLE_jTk
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes:

Looks like another big tie replacement project will be underway soon, both on the industrials & Utica Main to Sangerfield. I've observed many florescent orange circles on the tracks along Utica's Arterial and in S Utica as well. A bunch of new ties has also been placed along the industrials across ConMed in S Utica.

This video features a NB UT-1 on Utica's Schuyler Street yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbvgBT8v8qc
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: A major tie replacement project between Utica-Sangerfield, including Utica-area industrial tracks, is scheduled to begin next week. Dozens of tie bundles each containing 25 ties have been placed trackside. Tartaglia Railroad Services has the contract.

This video features a northbound run on Schuyler Street the late afternoon of Oct 10th; of particular interest is the close call at the intersection of Schuyler/Court:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THY2rj4BWVw
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: Trips to Sangerfield have decreased since my last update, sometimes only once per week. My guess is that this was probably due to the big track project. So far this week, they've made the trip just once, on Monday. The power was NYSW 3040 and a CSX leaser, 2514. Activity on the industrials, however, has pretty much been 5 days per week M-F. A friend who used to work for the railroad told me he couldn't believe how many cars he recently saw in Sangerfield; perhaps there's a backlog due to the infrequent trip to SANG.

The track project finished a month or so ago.

Here's a video from yesterday showing the local (i.e., non-SANG) run:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXAIv6nMWjs
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: For a short time, the Utica job had the symbol CL-X instead of UT-1. This was due to the fact that the Susquehanna was using Cortland-based extra board crew for Utica trains. However, at least two trainmen are based out of Utica once again so use of the UT-1 designation has resumed. At least two huge piles of old ties removed during the recent track project are lineside: one by the Oneida Street crossing in Washington Mills and the other in Clayville just south of the Lower Main Street crossing.

The first run of 2023 occurred on Monday, Jan 2nd. NYS&W No. 3040 and CSX leaser 2514 powered a seven-car train to Sangerfield.

Highlights here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6n1b-X6vYc
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: Daily activity M-F continues on the Utica-area industrials with the biggest customer, by far, being Oneida Warehouse along Campion Road, New Hartford. It is not unusual for crews to make two trips there per day. Runs to Sangerfield continue to occur just 1-2 times per week.

This video features a look at a CSX interchange train departing the Susquehanna's Utica yard on January 18th:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVhC2QxVaZg

Also included is some mainline CSX activity with some MA&N action thrown in for good measure,
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  by johnpbarlow
 
Interesting video of CSX picking up NYS&W interchange. How often does this occur? Is all CSX-NYS&W inbound/outbound interchange at Utica routed through Selkirk Yard? Does whatever (if any) NYS&W haulage to/from Syracuse there is pass through Selkirk? Thanks.
  by NaDspr
 
1) CSX generally delivers and picks up cars at the NYS&W every other day, or at least that is the plan. Of course, this is always subject to change any time.
2) Not all cars destined to the NYS&W go thru Selkirk Yard. That depends on the car trip routing. However, if they do go thru Selkirk, they would be put onto a westbound train to drop the NYS&W cars at DeWitt Yard, then put onto an eastbound train for delivery to the NYS&W at Utica, since the interchange is an eastbound move off Tk 2.
3) All cars picked up from the NYS&W at Utica by CSX go to Selkirk yard and get re-classified for their next destination.
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