Trip report - Toronto - Moncton
Toronto - Montreal
My trip was on #60 with stainless steel HEP cars. It appears to be newly refurbished with new carpet, new artwork, new seating upholstery and cushions. The new cushions are stiff since they haven’t been used a lot like the old ones. No other changes - same seats and equipment. Does anyone know if this will be the same style as the LRC refurbs? I’m assuming yes.
Montreal - Moncton
My first surprise was that I was invited into the Panorama Lounge. I figured that was reserved for Easterly Class passengers. Since there is no Easterly in the off-season, I was in Comfort Sleeper class.
The second surprise was that the equipment had been switched from when I originally booked. I was booked into a double bedroom on the Renaissance equipment when I purchased my ticket in early January, but now I was on the Budd equipment. It’s obvious that this change had been made for quite some time since many people were booked into roomettes. I wish I had known about this ahead of time as I would have switched to a roomette myself. I couldn’t complain much, though, since I had originally wanted to have the ex-CP stainless steel equipment anyway, and this way I got a whole double bedroom to myself.
Everything is nearly the same as the last time I made this trip (four years ago), with a few small changes.
First, the toilets have been upgraded - they used to be small porcelain toilets. Now they are airplane style vacuum toilets. I assume this was part of the retention toilet retrofit.
The Skyline car was very quiet when I first headed over to the café section around 7:30pm. There were two people in the table seating area, one person in the lounge, and two people in the dome. I wanted to sit in the dome for a while, however the lights were one, which totally obliterates the night view. I know there’s a reason that they leave the lights on, but this is still an irritant for me. Perhaps they could turn the lights off in the low season. I decided to take the drink back to my room, instead. The attendant was more than happy to bring it to me, since I wasn’t permitted to carry it myself.
I notice that in the sleepers, where the berth sections are, the ladders are gone. They used to be hung from a rail on the outside wall of the shower compartment. I wonder if this was the result of a (potential) safety issue?
The overall decor on the Budd cars is starting to look a bit worn and tired. Does anyone know if there are refurb plans on the books?
After all these years, I still can’t believe they haven’t remedied the door lock situation on the bedrooms. This problem is especially glaring now since the Ren equipment has key-card access. I was afraid to leave the room without taking my important stuff - computer, camera, phone.
I retired shortly after we departed Charny. My sleep was better than usual.
In the morning I decided to take breakfast in the dining car, and was again surprised to find that it was quiet at about 9am Atlantic Time with only a half-dozen customers. The food arrived quickly, but the staff were strange, as usual. I even had a somewhat aggressive interaction over what I initially thought was an error in my order. I pleasantly inquired about it, but the server who delivered the food made me feel like an idiot for inquiring.
After breakfast, I went up to the dome in the Skyline car just as we were pulling into Bathurst. Again, only a very few people up there. I spent a lovely hour taking photos and watching the fresh powder blast by as we sped through the northern New Brunswick wilderness. This is the magical part of a winter train journey that I love so much.
A further observation on VIA’s client service culture:
Many of the staff seem to have this overly-familiar passive-aggressive way, which is always the way I remember it for the last 15 years I’ve been travelling this route. The impression that I, a paying customer, receives, is that I’m dealing with a lot of disgruntled employees. In my experience, this is could be the result of one of two things:
That the employees truly are disgruntled.
That VIA has a difficult time attracting talented staff who are client-focused.
Either way, this reflects very poorly on the organization, and both represent large systemic problems.
One thing I simply don’t understand is that after all this time, VIA still doesn’t get that they’re in the hospitality industry. On VIA’s website and brochures, they outline a deluxe travel experience where one would naturally expect a superior level of service. Well, I’ve been waiting for this for 15 years, where they start offering the level of service that you would expect in a 4- or 5-star hotel. The current calibre of staff is more akin to an inter-city bus station. Taking a transcontinental train with VIA is a premium experience - the quality of their staff should reflect that. But I am consistently disappointed at every level - from station agents to telephone operators, to car attendants.
I should add that I do not mean to offend any of the truly client-focused employees of the organization, which I’m sure exist... somewhere. In fact, I’m pretty sure that I’ve even experienced good service at some point. But if you are a VIA Rail employee reading this, I’m sorry to say that the negative service I’ve received from some of your colleagues have far overshadowed any great experiences I may have had in the past.
Hilariously, I scoured the VIA website for references to a superior level of service, and couldn’t really find any. Yes, they outline a superior travel experience, as far as the facilities are concerned, but nowhere does it say that you can expect to be treated with warmth, sincerity, or hospitality.
To conclude this trip report, I am pleased to say that despite my concerns with the staff, I had a lovely trip, as I always have. I truly enjoy travelling this route by rail - especially in winter.
Toronto - Montreal
My trip was on #60 with stainless steel HEP cars. It appears to be newly refurbished with new carpet, new artwork, new seating upholstery and cushions. The new cushions are stiff since they haven’t been used a lot like the old ones. No other changes - same seats and equipment. Does anyone know if this will be the same style as the LRC refurbs? I’m assuming yes.
Montreal - Moncton
My first surprise was that I was invited into the Panorama Lounge. I figured that was reserved for Easterly Class passengers. Since there is no Easterly in the off-season, I was in Comfort Sleeper class.
The second surprise was that the equipment had been switched from when I originally booked. I was booked into a double bedroom on the Renaissance equipment when I purchased my ticket in early January, but now I was on the Budd equipment. It’s obvious that this change had been made for quite some time since many people were booked into roomettes. I wish I had known about this ahead of time as I would have switched to a roomette myself. I couldn’t complain much, though, since I had originally wanted to have the ex-CP stainless steel equipment anyway, and this way I got a whole double bedroom to myself.
Everything is nearly the same as the last time I made this trip (four years ago), with a few small changes.
First, the toilets have been upgraded - they used to be small porcelain toilets. Now they are airplane style vacuum toilets. I assume this was part of the retention toilet retrofit.
The Skyline car was very quiet when I first headed over to the café section around 7:30pm. There were two people in the table seating area, one person in the lounge, and two people in the dome. I wanted to sit in the dome for a while, however the lights were one, which totally obliterates the night view. I know there’s a reason that they leave the lights on, but this is still an irritant for me. Perhaps they could turn the lights off in the low season. I decided to take the drink back to my room, instead. The attendant was more than happy to bring it to me, since I wasn’t permitted to carry it myself.
I notice that in the sleepers, where the berth sections are, the ladders are gone. They used to be hung from a rail on the outside wall of the shower compartment. I wonder if this was the result of a (potential) safety issue?
The overall decor on the Budd cars is starting to look a bit worn and tired. Does anyone know if there are refurb plans on the books?
After all these years, I still can’t believe they haven’t remedied the door lock situation on the bedrooms. This problem is especially glaring now since the Ren equipment has key-card access. I was afraid to leave the room without taking my important stuff - computer, camera, phone.
I retired shortly after we departed Charny. My sleep was better than usual.
In the morning I decided to take breakfast in the dining car, and was again surprised to find that it was quiet at about 9am Atlantic Time with only a half-dozen customers. The food arrived quickly, but the staff were strange, as usual. I even had a somewhat aggressive interaction over what I initially thought was an error in my order. I pleasantly inquired about it, but the server who delivered the food made me feel like an idiot for inquiring.
After breakfast, I went up to the dome in the Skyline car just as we were pulling into Bathurst. Again, only a very few people up there. I spent a lovely hour taking photos and watching the fresh powder blast by as we sped through the northern New Brunswick wilderness. This is the magical part of a winter train journey that I love so much.
A further observation on VIA’s client service culture:
Many of the staff seem to have this overly-familiar passive-aggressive way, which is always the way I remember it for the last 15 years I’ve been travelling this route. The impression that I, a paying customer, receives, is that I’m dealing with a lot of disgruntled employees. In my experience, this is could be the result of one of two things:
That the employees truly are disgruntled.
That VIA has a difficult time attracting talented staff who are client-focused.
Either way, this reflects very poorly on the organization, and both represent large systemic problems.
One thing I simply don’t understand is that after all this time, VIA still doesn’t get that they’re in the hospitality industry. On VIA’s website and brochures, they outline a deluxe travel experience where one would naturally expect a superior level of service. Well, I’ve been waiting for this for 15 years, where they start offering the level of service that you would expect in a 4- or 5-star hotel. The current calibre of staff is more akin to an inter-city bus station. Taking a transcontinental train with VIA is a premium experience - the quality of their staff should reflect that. But I am consistently disappointed at every level - from station agents to telephone operators, to car attendants.
I should add that I do not mean to offend any of the truly client-focused employees of the organization, which I’m sure exist... somewhere. In fact, I’m pretty sure that I’ve even experienced good service at some point. But if you are a VIA Rail employee reading this, I’m sorry to say that the negative service I’ve received from some of your colleagues have far overshadowed any great experiences I may have had in the past.
Hilariously, I scoured the VIA website for references to a superior level of service, and couldn’t really find any. Yes, they outline a superior travel experience, as far as the facilities are concerned, but nowhere does it say that you can expect to be treated with warmth, sincerity, or hospitality.
To conclude this trip report, I am pleased to say that despite my concerns with the staff, I had a lovely trip, as I always have. I truly enjoy travelling this route by rail - especially in winter.