DutchRailnut wrote:Hmm Am I mistaken in that this site is for railfans ??A railfan site for FACTUAL information. In your case, misinformation often disseminated with a complete lack of facticity!
Duhh I must be wrong again.
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DutchRailnut wrote:Hmm Am I mistaken in that this site is for railfans ??A railfan site for FACTUAL information. In your case, misinformation often disseminated with a complete lack of facticity!
Duhh I must be wrong again.
DutchRailnut wrote: Only about 10% of entire USA network is equipped with some kind of cab signalling device wich does not prevent a train from going tru a red but it can only pass a red at restricted speed 15 > 20 mph.Now that I think about it, the northern line out of Chicago had ATS, which will stop you if you pass a red at any speed as I was told some ten years ago. ATS units are getting hard to come by anymore. In fact, they had to outfit some GP15's to lead coal trains and such up that line. However, even at a guess, I don't think it is 10% of the milage in the U.S.
jg greenwood wrote:
You must be mistaken! The guru says 90%, and by God, 90% it is!
For the record, you're correct re: the CN.
David Telesha wrote:The CDOT 2023 at CERM used in MNCR service has a deadman's pedal.."Vern" is in reference to a commercial that was on a few years ago. IIRC, the actors name was Jim Varney, sometimes known as Ernest P. Worrell
The cab cars, at least the earlier ones, MNCR and CDOT use have deadman's pedals...
On the NEC not all reds are absolute, some can be passed at restricted speed with DS permission.
Can we get along now JG?? Dutch isn't wrong about EVERYTHING....
And who the hell is VERN?
TR-00 wrote:Hey David, you don't need the permission to pass a "stop and proceed" signal anywhere on the corridor, and asking for it will bring the wrath of a roadforeman down on you because you are an idiot not to know.
DutchRailnut wrote:90% of all locomotives in USA have alertors and other 10% or so still have a deadman pedal.First, what is a alertor? Unfortunately i dont found something about it.
DutchRailnut wrote:Only about 10% of entire USA network is equipped with some kind of cab signalling device wich does not prevent a train from going tru a red but it can only pass a red at restricted speed 15 > 20 mph.Is THIS a cab signalling device?
.Taurus. wrote:Hi at all!An alerter is a device that is tied into the brake, throttle, whistle, or bell to detect their operation. If in a given time period, none have been used, it will give the Engineer a visual as well as aural alarm which has to be acknowledged. Working any of the above controls, or pushing an acknowledge button on the control stand will cancel the alerter. If not, the alerter will apply the air brakes.DutchRailnut wrote:90% of all locomotives in USA have alertors and other 10% or so still have a deadman pedal.First, what is a alertor? Unfortunately i dont found something about it.
.Taurus. wrote:Yes, that is a form of cab signals. Correct me if I am wrong, the photo shows cab signals from Conrail, ex-PC, and exx_Pennsylvania Railroad. In that case it is a CSS type.DutchRailnut wrote:Only about 10% of entire USA network is equipped with some kind of cab signalling device wich does not prevent a train from going tru a red but it can only pass a red at restricted speed 15 > 20 mph.Is THIS a cab signalling device?
.Taurus. wrote:How does the data transmission works?The locomotive when it sees a restricting cab signal will also sound an audio alarm telling the engineer to reduce speed. If the engineer fails to acknowledge this or act withing 40 seconds, a penallty brake application will be applied. The automatic brake pipe must be put into supression, and train must come to a stop. Along with the change in cab signal indication, a high speed whistle will sound if the train is over 17 mph with a restricting cab signal displayed. As long as the cab signal remains restricting, an alarm will sound periodically that must be acknowledged or a penalty brake application will commence.
.Taurus. wrote:Can this devise stop the train for oneself, if it past a red signal?
Or is it a devise that only can help the crew to drive the train, by showing the signal status miles ahead?
.Taurus. wrote:Is this a train securty system too?I am not sure what a Train Security system might entail. Again, based on the CNW ATC, the system is all analog, a product of 1920's era technology.
.Taurus. wrote:On UP units buddy, theres a cab signal "pick up bar" that reads the rails right under the front of the motor, about where the steps are at.
Does the Signal go from one rail through the axle of the engine (where it will detect by the safty system of engine) and then back to the starting point throughthe second rail ? Or from the overhead Wire through the Engine and than through the rails?