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Discussion related to New Jersey Transit rail and light rail operations.

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  by atlc4612
 
If you were going to "short turn" a revenue equipment set in NJ (never mind why you would want to do that for now) where could it lay over without affecting normal operations?
Is there a spot at Cherry Hill? (I think so based on videos I saw).
Can the connecting track at Winslow Junction be used? (I have seen MOW equipment on it. Is that hand thrown or interlocked?)
Any other places?

Thanks in advance!
  by liftedjeep
 
atlc4612 wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:02 am If you were going to "short turn" a revenue equipment set in NJ (never mind why you would want to do that for now) where could it lay over without affecting normal operations?
Is there a spot at Cherry Hill? (I think so based on videos I saw).
Can the connecting track at Winslow Junction be used? (I have seen MOW equipment on it. Is that hand thrown or interlocked?)
Any other places?

Thanks in advance!
There is a passing siding at the Cherry Hill station that would not affect service if utilized.

Ben
  by glennk419
 
There is a siding at Winslow which held five or six retired NJT Comets a couple years ago that is now empty. I believe there is also an unused siding near AC International that has been used for MOW storage in the past.
  by Return to Reading Company Olney Sta
 
The “South Race “ siding in Cherry Hill was regularly used for layovers in beginning of NJT ACL service when service was not operated into Phila. And has been used since then at various service disruptions.
  by atlc4612
 
Thanks for the responses!
Are the trains still serviced in AC (fueled/inspected/etc)?
Are they still sent to the MMC for "heavier" maintenance via 30th Street?
  by liftedjeep
 
atlc4612 wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:16 am Thanks for the responses!
Are the trains still serviced in AC (fueled/inspected/etc)?
Are they still sent to the MMC for "heavier" maintenance via 30th Street?
Correct

Ben
  by scratchyX1
 
I'm surprised the AC Line service hasn't transitioned from intercity rail to atlantic city to a regional rail service that is philly/northen NJ centric. Not as much a demand for people going all the way to coast, than those going towards Philly.
  by MattW
 
I've thought that too. Something very roughly resembling LIRR Montauk service with most service to an intermediate station like Berlin or Atco and every other train or less going all the way to AC.
  by MedicSutton
 
I don't mean to kick a dead horse but we should be thinking of a way to route all these rail lines through Camden and under or over the Delaware via 1 carrier with all lines running 1 type of equipment. Instead what we have is 1 heavy rail line that adds 30-45 min to jog north into cherry hill, Pennsauken, over the delair draw(hopefully not open), across the NEC w/permission, and finally to 30th street station via a gigantic end around. Patco which is direct however is at capacity and couldn't accommodate diesel light rail/heavy rail for various reasons. Also would be more desirable if extended to 30th street. Thirdly , We have a (soon to be 2) LRT line that has hours restricted due to freight traffic among other issues. They had it right when they had all the feeder lines terminate in Camden at the ferry terminal. There has to be a better way. The more these rail lines are piecemealed the harder it becomes to have a decent transportation alternative attractive enough to get people out of cars. Nobody wants to be making multiple transfers waiting on multiple trains and buses just to get to work. #raifanrant
  by R&DB
 
by MedicSutton
Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:10 pm
You are not the first to verbalize the problem. There have been various proposed solutions dating back to the 1800s. The one real solution, which has never gotten sufficient financial, political or corporate backing is a rail tunnel from Camden to Philly Broad St. all the way to 30th St. station. Not subway cars or light rail, but heavy rail with dual-mode locos. And build the Glassboro line to these standards also. The Cherry Hill to 30th should end Cherry Hill. All other AC Line trains through the tunnel, half of which should probably terminal at Hammonton.
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