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Discussion related to NYAR operations on Long Island. Official web site can be found here: www.anacostia.com/nyar/nyar.html. Also includes discussion related to NYNJ Rail, the carfloat operation successor to New York Cross Harbor that connects with NYAR.
 #516250  by LRail
 
Newsday reports that SYSCO Food services will try and build a headquarters/warehouse facility in Yaphank. Does NYA have any possibility of servicing it?
-Lee

 #517220  by kuzzel540
 
http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzsy ... 4045.story

Sysco Corp., the nation's largest supplier of food for restaurants and food service facilities, has filed plans to establish a regional headquarters in Yaphank that would be among the largest industrial construction projects on Long Island, Brookhaven officials said Wednesday.

The proposed 375,000-square-foot building, which would include both corporate offices and warehouse space, would be located on the site that once housed Parr Meadows, a quarter horse race track that opened in 1977 and closed after only 113 days of operation. The 65-acre parcel is north of the Long Island Expressway and west of the William Floyd Parkway.

The land, which is still in contract but which Sysco is expected to close on in the next two weeks, is currently owned by Yonkers-based AVR Realty Co. and developer Wilbur Breslin, who once proposed to build a massive mixed-use development there and on thousands of surrounding acres.

Sysco's closest existing regional headquarters is in Jersey City, N.J.

"The fact that Sysco is working with the Brookhaven Industrial Development Agency to bring 300 new jobs to our community is further proof that Brookhaven is a great place to do business," Brookhaven Supervisor Brian X. Foley said in a statement. "Brookhaven is creating new jobs at a time when so many other areas are losing them."

Foley said the company was attracted to the area's access to transportation and strong workforce, and he credited his Office of Economic Development with helping Brookhaven "land this deal."

In a preliminary application that the town IDA accepted in January, the Houston, Tex.-based company projected that the project would cost $81 million and create about 300 operational and management jobs. Although the site is located outside of the town's Empire Zone, Sysco has applied for a special designation that would make the company eligible for tax breaks and other benefits afforded to firms that locate within the Zone.

Because of the project's proximity to land protected by the Pine Barrens Act and its size, it will face scrutiny from the Pine Barrens Commission, a body that includes representatives from the state, county and town governments. Sysco also faces standard review by town and county agencies.

In February, the company created the corporate entity Sysco Food Services of Long Island Llc to develop and run the headquarters, according to records from the New York Secretary of State's office.

Sysco representatives and Breslin did not return calls seeking comment. An AVR spokesman declined to comment on the deal.


The 65-acre parcel is north of the Long Island Expressway and west of the William Floyd Parkway.
Based on the location, I would say it's doubtful.

 #517242  by Spartan Phalanx
 
No possibilty of building a spur to the location, even if the Town, the County or the State used eminent domain to acquire the needed land to build a spur?

 #517540  by Notinmyneighborhood
 
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Option 1: Requires Overpass over the LIE west of Exit 68

Option to Requires either a grade crossing or Overpass over CR-46 William Floyd Parkway. This option can be built on mostly Government owned land. BNL owns most of the property on the North side of the LIE east of Exit 68 in the picture shown.

Both options are too expensive. I do not think the William Floyd parkway need another grade crossing. There is already one in Shirley Just south of Montauk Highway.

 #517943  by Spartan Phalanx
 
What about a spur that branches off the BNL spur and goes to the SYSCO property? Is that possible?

 #518000  by b&p rupture
 
Foley said the company was attracted to the area's access to transportation and strong workforce
Transportation in the form of more trucks on the LIE, not in the form of rail traffic apparently....

 #518031  by jayrmli
 
If they were interested in taking rail shipments, they would have looked for property with better rail access, or in an area where their products could be transloaded. Neither can be done in that area at this time.

Two words: no way.

Jay

 #518584  by jtunnel
 
Certain food shipments are just to critical to wait for the railroad to get around to sending a freight car along. Sysco deals with frozen foods that their customers need NOW and are willing to pay for that service (actually we pay for that service)

Not like a reefer full of onions or boxcar full of catsup.

There are intermodal transfer facilities in New Jersey, upstate NY and eastern PA where trains carrying food to get trans-loaded to trucks for distribution. Sitting in traffic on the LIE for four hours after traveling from these places is part of the cost of doing business on Long Island. Thousands of commuters on the LIRR don't care and don't want to be delayed by a TOFC or reefer train delivering the very food they need to exist.

Although the railroad is not involved, it is nice to see this type of business coming to the island. It will have larger trucks feeding a distribution center that will use smaller trucks to make the local deliveries. Better then having all those little trucks on the LIE taking up roadway space.

Then there is alway the possibility that things will change sometimes in the future.

 #519448  by RPM2Night
 
Everywhere else in the country ships and recieves many different food products by rail. I don't see why it couldn't be done here, other than policital opposition and support of the trucking industry.

 #519463  by Mr rt
 
Like Jay said, the C-O-S-T to make a rail spir, i.e. it would take years to recover that cost, and those NIMBs will oppose the RxR crossing the road.

So saw it out laud NO WAY.

 #519587  by RPM2Night
 
building roads and facilities for the trucks costs a lot of money too.

 #519760  by b&p rupture
 
RPM2Night wrote:building roads and facilities for the trucks costs a lot of money too.
Yes building roads does, but from a different source: taxpayers. The bill for the spur would be entirely footed for by the Co. involved, thus return on investment comes into play.

 #519846  by hrfcarl
 
b/p rupture wrote:Yes building roads does, but from a different source: taxpayers. The bill for the spur would be entirely footed for by the Co. involved, thus return on investment comes into play.
If there is space on site expand, do you think SYSCO would allow other transloading to take place and thus maybe attract attention of PA NY/NJ as part of the cross harbor tunnel project? I know I am going out on a limb, but that tunnel would be needed to make any heavy freight operations (intermodal or transloading) viable in NYC and LI.

 #520003  by jayrmli
 
The Cross Harbor Tunnel is somewhere between a fairy tale and a pipe dream. If it were ever going to happen, it would have been built a long time ago.

First to think about building it was the Pennsylvania Railroad. The same company with pockets deep enough to build Penn Station, the Hudson and East River Tunnels and the Hell Gate Bridge. If they couldn't do it, no one could.

Next was the Port Authority. They were actually created to build the tunnel. They never did it either, but were able to build some of the most successful capital projects in the tri-state area. But, not the tunnel.

Now, it's left to a couple of delusional politicians to carry the torch. Actually, just one (Nadler). My guess is it remains a bunch of hot air.

Jay