• Special rail trip to Greenport Oct. 16th

  • Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.
Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

Moderator: Liquidcamphor

  by nyandw
 
On October 16th, LIST and the LIRR will be having a special rail trip to Greenport. Please click on the link below regarding information concerning the trip.
There will be more information in the September edition of the Semaphore which will be sent out shortly via email and the USPS.
PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD AS THE TRIP IS OPEN TO ALL!
PLEASE JOIN US FOR A FUN FILLED DAY!
Steve

Below is the link to the webpage for the Greenport Rail Fan Tour.

https://new.mta.info/daytrips/guided-to ... t-rail-fan
  by BM6569
 
Would be neat if they ran it like some of the Montauk trains, directly from Penn Station to Greenport!
  by Pensyfan19
 
gamer4616 wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:49 pm DM locomotives are prohibited east of Ronkonkoma.
Then explain this.
  by gamer4616
 
DM engines (500 series) are prohibited east of Ronkonkoma.


Greenport passenger trains are limited to the DE engines (400 series).


Due to this restriction, direct service to/from Penn Station is not possible.



DM engines are equipped with 3rd rail shoes and allow service to Penn Station.

The DE engines have no 3rd rail shoes and are not permitted into the East River tunnels (into Penn Station).
  by 452 Card
 
There are areas unknown to the MW that could cause problems. In the early EMD DM evolution, we found broken third rail shoes on Montauk trains that had DMs on the point. I did the old school investigation, by walking the track from Babylon east. Yes I know this sounds dumb, but I found the problem in Bayshore. At the west end of the eastbound low-level platform that was still there, I found a clump of debris that would shear off the third rail shoes from the DMs. There was a pile there. Unless someone takes the time to review the PC for any problems, the LIRR will continue to restrict the DMs by Special Instruction.
  by gamer4616
 

Then explain this.


I didn't realize there was a youtube clip in your post. In recent years, the railroad changed the special instructions to prohibit the engines. I can't pinpoint the exact timeframe. From what I heard, the contact shoes were hitting some obstructions enroute, and they were getting knocked off.

Image


It's even stated in the comments of the youtube video you sent.
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
gamer4616 wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:16 pm DM engines (500 series) are prohibited east of Ronkonkoma.

Greenport passenger trains are limited to the DE engines (400 series).
Not even through service to Jamaica with the DE30s?
  by Kelly&Kelly
 
I did the old school investigation, by walking the track from Babylon east.
I remember that investigation, and I'm trying darn hard to remember who you are now.
  by gamer4616
 
R36 Combine Coach wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:28 pm
gamer4616 wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:16 pm DM engines (500 series) are prohibited east of Ronkonkoma.

Greenport passenger trains are limited to the DE engines (400 series).
Not even through service to Jamaica with the DE30s?



The DE engines (400 series) are restricted in tunnels due to fumes. So that would exclude Penn Station. They don’t fit in the Atlantic tunnels, in addition to the fumes.

The DE’s will go to Long Island City / Hunterspoint Ave as they are open air.

Many will terminate in Jamaica, outside of the rush hour
  by Pensyfan19
 
Great trip today!
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
  by Pensyfan19
 
jonvit69 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:29 am the trip should have made stops at all stations east of ronkonkoma.
It did. I got on at Riverhead. The tour itself was in the C3 cab car, but the other two coaches were packed for other passengers to get on and off of due to other events happening along the branch.