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 #1596810  by mbrproductions
 
Cool photos, looks like the platform itself is now nearing completion, thanks for sharing.
 #1597301  by mbrproductions
 
Has construction on New Bedford Station begun? looking at satellite photos, it appears that all the planned stations are under construction except New Bedford, how come they are starting so late with this station?
 #1597355  by GP40MC1118
 
They have started the station at New Bedford. I think they are concentrating more on the layover yard for starters though.
 #1597983  by bostontrainguy
 
Just for fun I looked to see if there was a way to somehow replace the Mansfield NE leg of the old wye to make it easier for CSX to come down to Middleboro. The existing configuration via reverse move through Attleboro must be a pretty time consuming move for CSX. And of course this may offer an alternative route for Phase II. Probably cheaper, quicker and less controversial?

It actually looks possible using an existing utility ROW. Not going to happen probably but I was curious if there was any possibility.
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 #1597990  by GP40MC1118
 
This was one of the original proposals for Southcoast Rail when they wanted to run it through Taunton Central and not via Easton. This went down in flames due to extreme opposition from a group in Norton named "CCATS" (or close to that). It was a bitter battle with these folks. Myself and a few others had a running battle in the local newspaper over it. And Taunton didn't help either by jumping on the hysteria of a train cutting the city in half. Sigh...
 #1597996  by HenryAlan
 
The problem with branching the South Coast service from the Main Line to the Middleborough Secondary is that it becomes an added new service rather than an extended existing service. This would put a lot of pressure on capacity at South Station and on the NEC. Whether we extend from Middleborough or from Stoughton, neither method causes the same kind of operational challenges. Certainly would be much easier to build than the current Phase II proposal, though.
 #1605012  by mbrproductions
 
NEW ARTICLE: https://wbsm.com/new-bedford-fall-river ... oast-rail/
After more than 30 years of waiting, the people of the SouthCoast cities of New Bedford and Fall River are on the cusp of having rail service to Boston sometime next year.

The only problem is, someone forgot to ask them if they wanted it.

On Thursday night, the New Bedford City Council unanimously voted to add a referendum question to ballots in the city for the November 8 general election that will ask residents, “Shall this city be added to the Massachusetts Bay Authority?”
The referendum is part of the process of officially getting MBTA rail service, under Massachusetts General Law Chapter 161A, Section 6. The law requires that the certified votes in the affirmative of becoming an MBTA district must be turned in by January 1 of the year that service is expected to start. Since South Coast Rail is set to launch sometime in 2023, that means New Bedford has until the end of this year to get it done or the rail service couldn’t go into effect until 2024 at the earliest.
 #1605054  by BandA
 
The authority may not provide service to a city or town that fails to join the transportation area, unless such city or town was receiving service as of July 1, 2000.
Meanwhile, Bourne has been paying their annual MBTA assessments with nothing to show for it...Cape Flyer is technically a CCRTA service I think, which may 'splain why the on-cape stops other than Bourne are allowed. Is Greenfield an MBTA member?

[OT]What debt are we still paying on 55 years later!!!!
ASSESSMENT FORMULA: As the predecessor to the MBTA, the Boston Metropolitan District was made up of the 14 municipalities: Arlington, Belmont, Boston, Brookline, Cambridge, Chelsea, Everett, Malden, Medford, Milton, Newton, Revere, Somerville, and Watertown.

The assessment pays for administrative costs and charges incurred by the District. The total assessment is assessed to member municipalities in proportion to their share of the District's total Equalized Valuation.

ADMINISTRATION: The total assessment cannot increase by more than 2½ percent of the prior year's actual assessment. The District is no longer active; it exists only to administer outstanding debt issued prior to the formation of the MBTA. The MBTA pays for the District's debt service costs. When the debt is retired in FY2025, the District will cease to exist, and the District assessment will no longer be a Cherry Sheet assessment item.
 #1606202  by mbrproductions
 
Looking on Facebook, it seems there is already a NIMBY group trying to get people to vote "NO" for Commuter Rail service to the South Coast in an attempt to stop the project from happening. It just boggles my mind that the state did not do this before starting the project, and now all the millions they spent on this project could end up going to waste.
 #1606332  by bostontrainguy
 
Just looking around I see that there is a sewer treatment plant at the very end of the Fall River Line. They are under pressure to improve their facility and one of the factors is the discharge into the Bay and the sludge removal. Maybe they are thinking of a rail facility? Don't see any other reason to rebuild all the way to the state line otherwise. I know about Gold Medal and there was one other possible customer, but they wouldn't require going all the way to the border.

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-an ... ucture-and
 #1609641  by mbrproductions
 
ARTICLE: "Would South Coast Rail be the cheapest way to commute to Boston? Let's run the numbers."
https://www.heraldnews.com/story/news/l ... 536936002/
FALL RIVER — In a few weeks, citizens in Fall River and New Bedford will vote on whether they’d like their cities to join the MBTA, formally allowing service to begin in fall 2023 when the South Coast Rail project’s first phase is complete.

This vote, to be held during the Nov. 8 regular election, caps a decades-long process to bring South Coast Rail to fruition. It would connect Fall River and New Bedford to the MBTA for the first time, and restore passenger rail service to the two cities for the first time since 1959, when the Old Colony Railroad system stopped its passenger service.

With commuter rail service gone for so long, it’s possible many citizens in the SouthCoast haven’t ridden a passenger train in decades, or maybe have never ridden an MBTA commuter train at all. Before the vote, let’s answer a few questions and compare the potential rail line with different commuting options that are already available.
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