• Sleepercoach cars

  • Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.
Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.

Moderator: Otto Vondrak

  by john56
I believe these cars came into use on the NYC around 1959.Were they used on the 20th Century exclusively or on other NYC trains ?
  by NYC_Dave
The April 26. 1964 timetable listed 11 trains using Sleepercoaches, including nos. 25 and 26.
  by Backshophoss
The "proper" name for the car is Slumbercoach. :wink:
  by john56
Thanks , on the New York Central ,which we're talking about here,they were known as and advertised as Sleepercoaches. " Rest Assured on New York Central " " :P
Last edited by john56 on Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:30 pm, edited 4 times in total.
  by R Paul Carey
The 10 NYC "Sleepercoaches" were converted from 22 Roomette sleepers, with a 16-10 configuration. The NYC had four 24-8 Slumbercoaches, which were assigned to #'s 25-26. The four Slumbercoaches were sold to NP c.1964.
  by ExCon90
Was "Slumbercoach" a registered trademark of the Budd Company which could not be used on other cars, or did the Passenger Department simply decide they wanted a distinctive name anyway?
  by ExNYC63
It was my understanding that the Pullman Company owned the name Slumbercoach. The NYC cars
were operated by the NYC directly and therefore has to use the term Sleepercoach.
  by John Laubenheimer
The October 25, 1959 timetable shows the 24-8 SLEEPERCOACHES assigned to both the 20th Century Limited and the New England States. The April 29, 1962 is the first timetable to show the 16-10 Sleepercoaches on several trains, now including the New England States.
  by John Laubenheimer
Also, BUDD had initially termed the cars as SIESTA COACHES. (The Denver Zephyr's SILVER SIESTA may have been a hint to this.) Interestingly, NYC never actually owned the cars, but were on lease from BUDD. They proved to be quite popular, and when NYC's converted 22 roomette cars entered service, the original 4 cars all operated on the 20th Century Limited for a short while. The cars were returned to BUDD in 1964 (who eventually sold then to the Northern Pacific).
  by R Paul Carey
Otto, John:

NEVER, ever, "Slumbercoach" on NYC. Got it! (Thanks).
  by jhdeasy
For those who are seriously interested in Budd Slumbercoaches (and NYC Sleepercoaches), I recommend Tom Smith's article "The Budd Slumbercoach Brings Economy to Pullman Passengers" published in the Summer 2006 issue of the NRHS Bulletin.