Before we go to crazy, lets step back a bit.
From Trains Newswire
The equipment will operate on the Northeast Corridor, the New York-Savannah, Ga., Palmetto, and state-supported routes, including the Adirondack, Carolinian, Amtrak Cascades, Downeaster, Empire Service, Ethan Allen Express, Keystone Service, Maple Leaf, Hartford Line and Valley Flyer, Pennsylvanian, Vermonter and Virginia services. It will replace Amfleet I cars, Metroliners, and various state-owned equipment, such as North Carolina’s car fleet.
The new trainsets are double-headed, so you save time on turning trains. Dual-mode diesel/electric saves you more time swapping engines. So how many trainsets are we really thinking of here? Looking at the 2018 schedule, we can get a rough guess:
- 6 - Two sets of hybrid diesel for: Maple Leaf, Adirondack, Ethan Allen Express.
- 9- Three sets of dual mode for: Pennsylvanian, Vermonter, Carolinian. (Gotta have spares)
- 0 for the Night Owl (65/66/67). It has a sleeper.
- 5 hybrid for the Downeaster, which looks to be heavily leaning on rush-hour service.
- 9 of hybrid diesel for Empire Service
- 8 of hybrid diesel for Cascades (assuming using the shortcut and enhanced service)
- 13 of electric for Keystone.
- 13 electrics for the Regional, and 6 dual-modes for VA service
Totaling it up:
15 diesel-electric dual-mode
16 full electric
59 trainsets. Reporting says 73. 14 more trainsets, probably hybrid, for Palmetto.
The options will probably come in when Amtrak takes the time savings and turns it into more frequent service, as well as expands it out to more corridors. Depends on how it works out.
mcgrath618 wrote:I’m not sure where this article is sourcing its info from, but this is the first I’ve heard of the Sprinters being replaced, which I doubt is the case. There are plenty of trains that will remain solely in electrified territory, and the Sprinters still have plenty of years left of life. If anything, we’ll just see a mix now of both Sprinters and Chargers on the NEC.
Handing the Sprinters off to another organization would also not be “easy,” as you have described. The only other transit agencies in the country that could use them would be MARC and SEPTA, both of which have no use for them (SEPTA already owns Sprinters and barely uses them as it is, and MARC’s electric traction needs are… complicated, to say the least). The MBTA might eventually have some use for them, but as it stands their trains are still pulled by diesel.
It would be logical if you're replacing whole trainsets, since the Siemens Venture platform is dual-headed equipment with their own engines (be it hybrid, dual-mode, or pure electric). You'll knock out one Sprinter per trainset.
I can see MARC taking a few Sprinters for Penn line service, and scrapping all other electrics (HHP-8 and AEM-7). It'll require an operational change at WAS because they don't have enough trainsets to run a split engine type service (Bruns/Camden only diesel Chargers, Penn only Sprinters, no engine swapping). MBTA would need the infrastructure.