• Septa Trolley Modernization

  • Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.
Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

Moderator: AlexC

  by mcgrath618
 
I'm hoping and pushing for Brookville. They make good products, and are in state.
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
Has Brookville ever done a large scale order of 100+ units? They mostly have done small projects with smaller
agencies and operators.
  by zebrasepta
 
Sure ignore the question I asked last page
Wouldn't SEPTA also have to pay to rework the trolley lines to make it ADA compatible with the low floor trolleys and remake the stations?
You people have very short attention spans.
  by west point
 
Question is can Siemens meet all the heavy and light rail orders? Not only the Sacramento plant but all the sub vendors. Know any plants underutilized or vacant that can take a little load off Sacramento and provide proper quality control?
  by RandallW
 
zebrasepta wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:46 pm Sure ignore the question I asked last page
Wouldn't SEPTA also have to pay to rework the trolley lines to make it ADA compatible with the low floor trolleys and remake the stations?
You people have very short attention spans.
As was noted back in 2019 on this site, the "Rebuilding for the Future" plan includes that work. https://railroad.net/post1501755.html#p1501755 We have long memories.
  by PHLSpecial
 
mcgrath618 wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:01 am I'm hoping and pushing for Brookville. They make good products, and are in state.
Love the look of the modern trolleys but holy crap that website is from the 2000s.
I also notice they have worked with Septa in the past, so hopefully Septa will give Brookville a call of its streetcar
  by typesix
 
Brookvile's offering is a 70% low floor car. The Railway Age car parameter listed previously doesn't state whether the vehicle is 100% low floor, but based on the low top speed, it may be.
  by Silverliner5
 
typesix wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:14 pm Brookvile's offering is a 70% low floor car. The Railway Age car parameter listed previously doesn't state whether the vehicle is 100% low floor, but based on the low top speed, it may be.
SEPTA needs to increase the maximum speed since the Kawasaki City LRV can hit 50 and Suburban LRV can hit 65 mph, Septa needs to revise that maximum speed to be higher so it can be faster than it's predecessors
  by scratchyX1
 
Silverliner5 wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:36 pm
typesix wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:14 pm Brookvile's offering is a 70% low floor car. The Railway Age car parameter listed previously doesn't state whether the vehicle is 100% low floor, but based on the low top speed, it may be.
SEPTA needs to increase the maximum speed since the Kawasaki City LRV can hit 50 and Suburban LRV can hit 65 mph, Septa needs to revise that maximum speed to be higher so it can be faster than it's predecessors
The media line has some sections where 65 would be possible.
  by Silverliner5
 
Here are a survey people and please make sure to choose a better color instead an existing one that the Kawasaki uses cause we need something different plus make sure to tell them to increase the max to 65 cause 43 seems unacceptable

https://planning.septa.org/projects/tro ... ion/about/
  by Silverliner5
 
One more thing to add to the colors is that the boomers should not be choosing the existing colors, the other ones here are pretty much a far better option than the last one cause it gives it a bright look and more modern to itself for septa the public
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  by PHLSpecial
 
I agree, I would love the Trolleys to be distinct from the buses. I'm in flavor of both the line color or pattern. The trolleys need more of a branding and this is an opportunity to do so
  by mcgrath618
 
Paint them PTC green.
  by MACTRAXX
 
S5 - There is a distinct reason for the plain white paint on the Kawasaki trolley fleet
which is entire car wraps or other outside advertising being placed on the car body...

Colors or a color scheme - which these cars once had - makes it more complicated to use wrap ads
and would perhaps "clash" color-wise with the advertising type that does get used...
A single color - white in this case - is also easier to maintain...MACTRAXX
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