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Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

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 #1574555  by ChesterValley
 
The numbers are pretty reflective of the number of people going to the office. I am pretty skeptical of SEPTA’s ability to impact this dynamic. Until employees are forced back to the offices ridership will remain depressed.
Regrettably this doesn't look like this is just Isolated to SEPTA. A report from the American Public Transit association https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uploads ... p-APTA.pdf has transit down by a cumulative total of almost 57% across the United States across all modes of transit and https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/25/clim ... hange.html this pattern is mirrored globally except for China.

Looking at the Turnpike numbers, it does appear that the traffic count is rebounding https://www.paturnpike.com/yourTurnpike ... ports-Main but for the most part the numbers are below 2019. As I said before, I don't know if a silver bullet exists or even a good solution to the problem. We aren't completely out of the woods with the pandemic.
 #1574575  by photobug56
 
NYC Transit is showing signs of recovery. LIRR has complaints of crowded trains, does say ridership has somewhat recovered. Metro North claims some recovery as well.

Having said this, OFFICE workers will resist going back period to some degree, less resistance to a hybrid model. Some firms actually gave up office space. Ironically, I was shoved out the door shortly before COVID hurt because I couldn't do a 6 hour round trip commute to a new office site that just happened to be sited where most of the US senior bosses were in the Japanese bank I worked for - yet there was no practical reason for me to be in that new site. I was working remotely 3 days per week, had 'hotel' seating the other 2 days - and the people I needed to see when I came in were in the main site anyway.

I do feel bad about the breakfast cart owner - maybe the very best in NYC, and a Chinese fast food place (with a mostly Oriental crowd) that I've gone to on and off for 30 years. Hard to feel bad about the truly mediocre LIRR, aka the Never On Time railroad, as supportive as I am of commuter rail. But even on a good day, it shouldn't take 60 to 90 minutes to go 40 miles on a commuter train, nor should equipment constantly break down.
 #1575391  by van2005ko
 
rcthompson04 wrote:I think the conductor said on my train this morning that we had 375 on 4 Silverliner Vs.
Paoli Thorndale line? Ridership is slowly trending back but there is still an long way to go.

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 #1575400  by rcthompson04
 
van2005ko wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:06 pm
rcthompson04 wrote:I think the conductor said on my train this morning that we had 375 on 4 Silverliner Vs.
Paoli Thorndale line? Ridership is slowly trending back but there is still an long way to go.

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Yes. That time frame in the morning would normally have 12-13 packed cars so we are a ways off.