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This project has been dead for more than a decade after NS said they were completely unwilling to host passenger rail on these tracks (the mostly dormant route was viewed by NS as helpful negotiation leverage for the NCRR lease). Miraculously, NS has had a change of heart (even before their activist...

Re: South Carolina and Passenger Rail

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:36 am ¦  Forum: General Discussion - Passenger Rail: High Speed and Heavy and Light Rail Systems ¦  Topic: South Carolina and Passenger Rail ¦  Replies: 24 ¦  Views: 8725

There are currently -rumors- (nothing more as yet) of a Columbia--Charlotte intercity passenger route being discussed by regional transportation planners. The people involved in the discussions are saying very little about this in order to ‘protect the discussion’ but they indicate that the talks ha...

Re: Brightline Ridership and Revenue

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:37 pm ¦  Forum: Brightline Trains LLC (formerly All Aboard Florida and Virgin) ¦  Topic: Brightline Ridership and Revenue ¦  Replies: 28 ¦  Views: 3662

Perhaps this will enable some express trains? So this leads us to a question I have had for a while. How much track capacity does Brightline have on the FEC? Seems like Grupo México will need to run at least a couple of intermodals a day from Miami. But Brightline is talking about higher frequencie...

Re: Brightline Ridership and Revenue

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:47 am ¦  Forum: Brightline Trains LLC (formerly All Aboard Florida and Virgin) ¦  Topic: Brightline Ridership and Revenue ¦  Replies: 28 ¦  Views: 3662

Brightline trims near term ridership projections again but still expects to reach its 8 million pa full service goal per bond offering docs. Although this brief article reports that Brightline is hitting capacity limits on some long-distance city pairs and implies that they are now throttling short...

Re: Brightline Ridership and Revenue

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:50 am ¦  Forum: Brightline Trains LLC (formerly All Aboard Florida and Virgin) ¦  Topic: Brightline Ridership and Revenue ¦  Replies: 28 ¦  Views: 3662

Brightline trims near term ridership projections again but still expects to reach its 8 million pa full service goal per bond offering docs. As a recent rider I’ll offer that the MCO terminus is awfully isolated, and a Stuart station will certainly improve ridership. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/ne...

Re: Brightline Orlando Launch Discussion

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:29 am ¦  Forum: Brightline Trains LLC (formerly All Aboard Florida and Virgin) ¦  Topic: Brightline Orlando Launch Discussion ¦  Replies: 118 ¦  Views: 13155

Just finished a MCO-Miami joyride. The good: Station quality was great. Felt like a swankier DB. Siemens equipment was fully functional and showing no signs of wear (in Premier class) Ride quality was excellent on the new tracks and very good on the old FEC Ridership seemed, fine. The Monday, mid-da...

Re: Brightline Orlando Launch Discussion

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:18 am ¦  Forum: Brightline Trains LLC (formerly All Aboard Florida and Virgin) ¦  Topic: Brightline Ridership and Revenue ¦  Replies: 28 ¦  Views: 3662

More ridership numbers, these are not great The Florida high-speed rail system last month disclosed in bond documents that it anticipates carrying a combined 5.5 million passengers this year on its new long-distance service between Miami and the Orlando airport and on its five-year-old South Florida...

Re: Chicago - Raleigh and Charlotte Service

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:27 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Chicago - Raleigh and Charlotte Service ¦  Replies: 11 ¦  Views: 897

This route is ridiculous, but I would take 2-3 round trips per year from end to end if it actually existed. Surely I alone am enough for Amtrak to get moving on this…

Re: Brightline Financial Performance

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:30 pm ¦  Forum: Brightline Trains LLC (formerly All Aboard Florida and Virgin) ¦  Topic: Brightline Financial Performance ¦  Replies: 43 ¦  Views: 4071

JohnFromJersey wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:06 pm Do you have a link to this rail map? I would like to see it for myself.
https://www.openrailwaymap.org/
is quite reliable and useful

Re: Brightline Orlando Launch Discussion

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:15 am ¦  Forum: Brightline Trains LLC (formerly All Aboard Florida and Virgin) ¦  Topic: Brightline Orlando Launch Discussion ¦  Replies: 118 ¦  Views: 13155

Based on this mysterious internet post (I have not evaluated its accuracy, these are the first Brightline Orlando ridership numbers I have seen), Brightline carried more passengers from MCO to South Florida than all airlines to all S Florida airports combined (MIA, FLL, PBI) in October. Nearly 80,00...

Re: The decline of sleeper trains

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:26 pm ¦  Forum: General Discussion - Passenger Rail: High Speed and Heavy and Light Rail Systems ¦  Topic: The decline of sleeper trains ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 6527

I think that's a critical element. In Europe the population is more densely concentrated, with a clear distinction between "city" and "country," and there are "last-mile" transit networks, with frequent service, that take you to within walking distance of your front do...

Re: The decline of sleeper trains

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:40 pm ¦  Forum: General Discussion - Passenger Rail: High Speed and Heavy and Light Rail Systems ¦  Topic: The decline of sleeper trains ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 6527

You missed "different" in my quote above. The NEC is one long rail line. the extension south is one long rail line. All the cities have an inline configuration. Where is the existing parallel line going to different terminating cities? Please don't suggest the inland corridor because it a...

Re: The decline of sleeper trains

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:23 am ¦  Forum: General Discussion - Passenger Rail: High Speed and Heavy and Light Rail Systems ¦  Topic: The decline of sleeper trains ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 6527

You will be hard pressed to find that many large cities packed so close together on different rail lines in the USA. Additionally, in Austria and Germany, the federal governments own the rail corridors. The entire NEC is either federally owned or state owned including the Inland Route and Harrisbur...

Re: The decline of sleeper trains

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:22 pm ¦  Forum: General Discussion - Passenger Rail: High Speed and Heavy and Light Rail Systems ¦  Topic: The decline of sleeper trains ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 6527

That was not just one train with an overnight train between two terminating cities, it was an overnight train between four terminating cities. In Austria, two trains from Innsbruck and Vienna joined into one, in Germany that one train split and went to Cologne and Hamburg. And that's not counting t...

Re: The decline of sleeper trains

 by Bob Roberts ¦  Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:45 am ¦  Forum: General Discussion - Passenger Rail: High Speed and Heavy and Light Rail Systems ¦  Topic: The decline of sleeper trains ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 6527

There are now three generations that have grown up on air travel and are used to arriving within 2 to 6 hours of when they left home.... that's the nut you need to crack first. Get there quick. Rail is the opposite of that, and always will be simply because of speed and distance. This nut has been ...

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